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Old 03-08-2013, 09:08 PM  
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New leader of the GOP: Rand Paul

"That's right. At least for the time being, tea party darling Sen. Rand Paul is the effective leader of the Republican Party. And that's a pretty big deal."

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Old 03-09-2013, 01:22 PM   #16
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And the Ds just won the 2016 election.
And they would lose to Chris Christie?
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:27 PM   #17
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And they would lose to Chris Christie?
Rand will get his ass handed to him by Hillary. No one is going to vote for isolationism in 2016. He is no way anything but a fringe candidate.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:34 PM   #18
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Rand will get his ass handed to him by Hillary. No one is going to vote for isolationism in 2016. He is no way anything but a fringe candidate.
Isolationism? Apparentl you dont actually know anything about Rand Paul.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:35 PM   #19
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And they would lose to Chris Christie?
Political predictions are this far out are pretty worthless, but possibly. But Rand Paul? Not possible.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:39 PM   #20
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Rand will get his ass handed to him by Hillary. No one is going to vote for isolationism in 2016. He is no way anything but a fringe candidate.
He wants to repeal the Civil Rights Act, so he will be a hit in places that would to bring back segregation.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:52 PM   #21
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Inb4 Buc tells you that Rand Paul isn't his dad.
Good job! I love when someone steps up to bat before I get the chance.

Rand still isn't as bad as Establishment Rs, NeoCons or even those on the right who have imbibed too much of the NC Kool-Aid.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:53 PM   #22
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Rand will get his ass handed to him by Hillary. No one is going to vote for isolationism in 2016. He is no way anything but a fringe candidate.
Seriously, you're misinformed or a died-in-the-wool Democratic NeoCon.

If Rand was an isolationist then why did he vote for sanctions on Iran?
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:54 PM   #23
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He wants to repeal the Civil Rights Act, so he will be a hit in places that would to bring back segregation.
No he spoke about his stand on that but said it's not on the table to be repealed.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:55 PM   #24
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I expect to see the GOP Establishment aka Leadership to do everything they can to derail a Rand Paul nomination and to push a Jeb Bush/Rubio ticket. It will like it was when Reagan tried to wrest the nomination from this wing of the party.
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:03 PM   #25
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No he spoke about his stand on that but said it's not on the table to be repealed.
I didn't say it was "on the table to be repealed." I said he would be in favor of repealing it.
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:06 PM   #26
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Political predictions are this far out are pretty worthless, but possibly. But Rand Paul? Not possible.
You're welcome to say that. I don't begrudge anyone their opinion.

From my vantage, the Republicans need to find a way to fold libertarians into the party to solidify their base. After that, they need to find a way to market themselves to moderates, as well as convince democrats to lean this way.

Rand Paul showed this weekend that he has the chops to do all of that. And not only that, he did it in a way that left the Republican establishment stunned and confused and pulling in two directions. You have Mitch McConnell basically forced to support Rand, and McCain and Lindsey Graham calling the libertarians who just got elected "Kookoo birds."

The proof that Rand is in the lead will come when Jeb, Rubio and Christie start sounding like Rand.
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:15 PM   #27
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The proof that Rand is in the lead will come when Jeb, Rubio and Christie start sounding like Rand.
Well even Mitt sounded like Paul on some points but I doubt it was sincere. Same with Jeb and Christie...and somewhat for Rubio.
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Old 03-09-2013, 03:27 PM   #28
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You're welcome to say that. I don't begrudge anyone their opinion.

From my vantage, the Republicans need to find a way to fold libertarians into the party to solidify their base. After that, they need to find a way to market themselves to moderates, as well as convince democrats to lean this way.

Rand Paul showed this weekend that he has the chops to do all of that. And not only that, he did it in a way that left the Republican establishment stunned and confused and pulling in two directions. You have Mitch McConnell basically forced to support Rand, and McCain and Lindsey Graham calling the libertarians who just got elected "Kookoo birds."

The proof that Rand is in the lead will come when Jeb, Rubio and Christie start sounding like Rand.

I will be surprised if Christie does. For some reason when I think of him I think of McCain.

And unless I am missing something, Rubio and Paul are not that far off on the issues.
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Old 03-09-2013, 05:34 PM   #29
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I didn't say it was "on the table to be repealed." I said he would be in favor of repealing it.
What do you think would happen if the part he had a problem with was repealed, bearing in mind that he already said (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_582872.html) that the part of the Civil Rights Act that he had a problem with was Title II (http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/hce/title2.php)
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:24 PM   #30
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What do you think would happen if the part he had a problem with was repealed, bearing in mind that he already said (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_582872.html) that the part of the Civil Rights Act that he had a problem with was Title II (http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/hce/title2.php)
What I think would happen is irrelevant. What is relevant is the fact that he wants to repeal it.
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