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Old 03-10-2013, 02:10 PM  
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Which car would you choose?

1996 Chevy Camaro RS Coupe with 88k miles for $3000 Manual 5-speed but will need all new tires, the ABS light is on, and the rear blinkers don't work, however the hazards all work. Ceiling is mega sagging.

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2002 Chevy Cavalier Sport Automatic 4-speed with 104k miles for $3500 but will eventually need a catalytic converter and the rear driver side window motor is faulty. Owner also mentioned that the ABS light will pop on occasionally but goes away after a few seconds. Happens every few weeks.

Having driven both I feel more comfortable in the Cavalier but that might be because I am not used to being so low to the ground in the Camaro. Also, the Camaro is a rear wheel drive car. Something else I am not fond of.

Those are the asking prices so I will obviously offer less.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:20 PM   #76
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is he employed?

if so, take the $3500..put it down on a $5500 Cherokee with about 60-70k miles, and let him pay it off...
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:45 PM   #77
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is he employed?

if so, take the $3500..put it down on a $5500 Cherokee with about 60-70k miles, and let him pay it off...
I think you may have your planeteers who are looking for cars mixed up...
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:45 AM   #78
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I have a 2003 Cavalier as my daily driver. Bought in 2005 with 28k, today it has 237k. Fuel economy has been 30mpg and repairs have been minimal so far. Has been good cost efficient transportation for me. It's beat up and looks like crap now but it still gets me back and forth (97 miles round-trip). If I can get another 100k out of it I may only have to buy 1 more car before I retire.
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:26 AM   #79
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TBH I wouldn't choose either.

You're just looking at a bunch of problems with both of them.
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:36 AM   #80
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is he employed?

if so, take the $3500..put it down on a $5500 Cherokee with about 60-70k miles, and let him pay it off...
I don't think you're finding a Cherokee with those miles with that money. $5500 may get you 160-170k miles.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:46 AM   #81
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TBH I wouldn't choose either.

You're just looking at a bunch of problems with both of them.
Guys, if you are going to only make broad statements and not provide details of why you think it will have problems you are not being very helpful. At least provide examples of said problems you think it will have.

Also, the cavalier is gone.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:55 AM   #82
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flop, my point was more geared towards buliding his own credit, and appreciating the vehickle buy paying for it on his own..etc...

...then I relaized this was a Guru thread....carry on.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:05 AM   #83
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flop, my point was more geared towards buliding his own credit, and appreciating the vehickle buy paying for it on his own..etc...

...then I relaized this was a Guru thread....carry on.
He wouldn't be able to open a line of credit at 16 I don't think. But yes, this is a Guru thread so I would rather him not take a loan on an old used car.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:07 AM   #84
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He wouldn't be able to open a line of credit at 16 I don't think. But yes, this is a Guru thread so I would rather him not take a loan on an old used car.
then cosign for him...hand up, not hand out.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:48 AM   #85
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I don't think you're finding a Cherokee with those miles with that money. $5500 may get you 160-170k miles.
That was going to be my next point. If such a vehicle existed anywhere in the four-state area, I would've found it by now.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:13 AM   #86
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If I were in your area, I would be interested in this:

http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/3665611017.html


Other than that, it looks like a lousy market (based on CL).
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:37 AM   #87
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If I were in your area, I would be interested in this:

http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/3665611017.html


Other than that, it looks like a lousy market (based on CL).
No better gas mileage than the Camaro but I'll take a look at it. Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:47 AM   #88
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No better gas mileage than the Camaro but I'll take a look at it. Thanks for the heads up.
Those mid-sized GMs with the 3.8L will get 30-32 hwy and low to mid-20's in the city, provided your son keeps his foot out of it.
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Well, if it was my son and his own money, I'd let him buy it with the understanding he's not to come crying to me every time the damn thing breaks, and not to come crying to me that he can't get to work because there's an inch of snow on the ground.

And while Exotor is the first person I've heard speak ill of that 3800 engine, I am not emotionally invested enough in this to get into a internet war over it. But it wouldn't be an engine I would be uncomfortable purchasing.

My biggest problem is a car like that has more than likely been hooned a time or two or three thousand. Just because it doesn't have a V8 doesn't mean it hasn't been driven like it does, especially with that manual trans. HAY GUYS CHECK OUT TEH SECOND GEAR SCRATCH!!!

So yeah, that, along with the age, shit's gonna break. If he's not willing to get his hands dirty and learn a thing or two about fixing your car yourself, it's not the car for him.
For some reason I was thinking the camaro was still a 3.4 car, but either way, a gen 1 3800 isn't much of an improvement in the long run.

That being said, I agree with the rest of your post, especially the hooning.

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TBH I wouldn't choose either.

You're just looking at a bunch of problems with both of them.
Right? Cheap interior plastics and shoddy electrical throughout the cars, that is a calling card for GM products from 84ish to the late 90's early 2000's.

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If I were in your area, I would be interested in this:

http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/3665611017.html


Other than that, it looks like a lousy market (based on CL).
His biggest issue is going to be distance. If he drives to KC to get a car, he's going to get a pretty damned good deal compared to what he's got nearby. Every car is going to be a liability to break at any point, but you can lower the liability by taking a shot at 50 cars versus 5 cars.
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Those mid-sized GMs with the 3.8L will get 30-32 hwy and low to mid-20's in the city, provided your son keeps his foot out of it.
To be specific realistically, depending on the cars, he's going to be looking at about 23/29 for most of them, which can be huge at his age.
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