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Old 03-10-2013, 04:49 PM  
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Installing a passenger side mirror?

some dipshit kicked/punched my side mirror off and I had to go to ebay to buy a replacement...

I am not savvy enough (I'm a dipshit) to install it myself and I am getting a little bit of work done tomorrow at an auto shop and I'm going to bring the mirror with me and ask them to install it for me...

how much should I be expecting them to charge me for that labor since I have already bought the part?
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:26 PM   #121
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:27 PM   #122
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i understood the question right off.

it will never hurt to ask. all they can do is do the job or say no and laugh at you when you leave.
A couple of hours ago, I would have agreed. I now know that some self-important mechanics will insist upon lecturing him about all sorts of tangential topics in addition to swearing at him and hurling insults his way.

Go with the Mexican. It's not worth the risk of crossing paths with some insufferable asshole.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:28 PM   #123
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I agree, I n00bed myself. I just know I'm not willing to pay more than $20 for it...
but now that makes me cheap.
If I was ugly as sin and couldn't get a chick with a $300 bill hanging out of my zipper...
I'm not going to go to the mall and spend $500 on a new t-shirt.
Try a $50. Even a dumb blonde knows there's no such thing as a $300 bill.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:28 PM   #124
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Get the **** over yourself. He's not bitching about how much it costs. He's just saying that it isn't worth $100+ to have a mechanic snap on a mirror when he can do it himself, have a friend do it, or pay a laborer $20.
Anytime Sauto starts arguing in a thread with me, there you are to talk shit on top, its like you two are paired together.

I'd be fine with your comment if that had been the case, but in the case that you didn't read this thread, he didn't say that. He didn't bitch like that. He went on a ****ing tirade about how expensive everything is and how he was getting "Screwed" because it should only take 5 minutes.

yes, it probably only will take 5 minutes, but you don't pay for 5 minutes of labor hour, you pay for the job, any marked up labor hour they have, and in many case, they won't do the job.

I explain to him and everyone else with the same misconception how this business works so they don't get the same idea this kid had.

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you explained shit to me that I didn't ask to be explained...I understand 100% of what you said. I understood it the first time.

At no point did I not understand it. I GET IT.

my ****ing God

TO ME, THE GUY WITHOUT THE ****ING MIRROR, THE FIX IS WORTH $20. IF NO ONE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD WOULD FIX IT FOR $20 AND I COULDN'T FIX IT MYSELF...I JUST WOULDN'T FIX IT.

Did anyone read that 'best one line of advice' you ever got thread?

one guy's dad said to him when he was bragging about how much his comic collection was worth "it's only worth as much as someone will pay for it."

well in this case, I'm that someone...

and for someone who doesn't give a shit about this car and ALREADY HAS THE ****ING PART...it is worth $20 god damn dollars to me...if that isn't worth it to said business, then that's fine with me and I hold no ill will and totally understand.

if that $20 is worth it to a Mexican then ****ing score one for me!

PRETTY SURE I DON'T NEED A WARRANTY, LIABILITY, INSURANCE, OR A LAWYER FOR SOMEONE TO INSTALL A ****ING MIRROR THAT I ALREADY OWN AND HAVE PAID FOR...

and if it isn't worth $20 for 5 minutes of someone's time then I understand. I do. I totally get it. That's why I made the thread. I wanted to know if 'big business' auto shops would consider doing something THIS EASY for the $20 I was willing to pay for something that was offered to me free of charge.

THAT WAS ****ING IT. THE END.

EXOTER YOUR POST COULD HAVE BEEN:

HEY PEYTON'S PRINCESS, I OWN A SHOP. NO ****ING WAY WOULD WE DO THIS. DON'T EVEN ASK.

and that would have been WAY MORE INFORMATIVE TO ME then the 210,000 character life lesson you decided to give to me


You were told that, you carried on.

But, you see, there is more to it than telling you it wouldn't happen.

You need to understand WHY it wouldn't happen, because some day you might be a customer of somebody on this site, and you will establish a good relationship with them because you are that much more INFORMED on how these business are ran, so you don't insult someone, or that knowing what you know now, you can find a good, honest mechanic out there, because believe me, there are plenty of crooks out there with a Business name and Tax ID that will take your money when you aren't looking.

I'm just trying to help inform the average Joe so they know what they are dealing with.

Sorry for Enlightening you and the rest of the world so you don't look like a giant douchebag wearing an asshat.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:31 PM   #125
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I agree, I n00bed myself. I just know I'm not willing to pay more than $20 for it...

but now that makes me cheap.

If I was ugly as sin and couldn't get a chick with a $300 bill hanging out of my zipper...

I'm not going to go to the mall and spend $500 on a new t-shirt.
It's a $40/$50 dollar repair on labor at a shop.

Part is $25 to $50 depending on model.

You are most likely going to ruin some of the plastic toggles that are holding the door panel on in the removal of said door panel. Also the mirror is usually attached with bolts that use a small hex head. If you don't have one, you are going to have to buy one.

My suggestion is find the part cheap on the intranets and have a shop slap it on for you. It's not a $20 repair though. It's a $40/$50 repair. And if you don't have replacement toggles and the correct tools, you're going to end up paying someone else to do it anyway once you kinda screw it up.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:32 PM   #126
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:32 PM   #127
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You mistunderstood the quote.

What I'm saying here is that there is labor hour, and then there is MY labor hour. If you have Mitchell or Alldata, you've probably noticed that you can mark up your labor hour.

As in, if Alldata says 2.0 hours base to fix it, in the settings this can be marked up by a percentage, so when it quotes it, it'll be 2.4 hours, instead of 2.0.

Now, I don't mean for you to read this as a person to person basis or job to job basis.

What I mean by this is when I opened business, I set my markup ahead of time.

I'm trying to give this kid an idea of what it actually takes to work on his car, what its going to cost him, and WHY it costs him that much.

In the interest of full transparency, I'm letting him know exactly how the business works so he doesn't get any misunderstandings.

Sorry that it came off that way to you, but I'm writing a ton of replies in two threads right now lol.
You're a ****ing crook. If it takes 2 hours to do a job, and you bill it at 2.4, **** you for being a thief. Charge whatever the **** you want per hour. Just don't lie about the number of hours. That is outright theft.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:32 PM   #128
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I'd be fine with your comment if that had been the case, but in the case that you didn't read this thread, he didn't say that. He didn't bitch like that. He went on a ****ing tirade about how expensive everything is and how he was getting "Screwed" because it should only take 5 minutes.
WTF are you talking about?!

The first time I bitched in this entire thread was when I, half asleep, read the 2.5 million character life lesson you handed me last night...

I couldn't believe a simple question turned into me being an ignorant dipshit who didn't know anything about business or the business world...

all because I had purchased a side mirror from ebay, had a previous appointment at a body shop scheduled for today, and wanted to know if they would do a small task like this for $20 or if I should just have a friend do it for free...

no bitching happened until your 5.2 billion character life lesson post set me off
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:34 PM   #129
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what I'm trying to say is...I'm on tap for about $100 of work tomorrow and with that I don't expect to pay more than $20 for them to install the mirror...is that reasonable? If they want to charge me more I already have a friend who said he'd do it free of charge but I rather not use his time if I can just pay $20 or so when I'm already taking my car in tomorrow as is
THIS IS POST FOUR OF THE THREAD AND THIS IS WHY I RECEIVED A LIFE LESSON OF 9.1 TRILLION CHARACTERS.

I even asked if it was reasonable...to which Bwana said '**** no', and then I just assumed this thread would die because I understood.

but no...a 21 trillion character life lesson ensued.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:35 PM   #130
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What I'm getting from this thread is if I'm ever in that neck of the woods and need work done on a vehicle, there's an honest one on the board (and it ain't the one jacking up the labor rates).
Labor Hour, you mean, and its how just about everybody does business.

I mean, there are those on this board that buy ASE signs and hang them at their shops without earning their certificates.........

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I'm the guy that spent $10 on XBox Live to give my avatar a Chiefs jersey and Air Jordan's...

that's how cheap I am
And yet you wouldn't spend more than 20 dollars to fix a mirror to increase your safety and the safety of everyone around you, in a vehicle that is likely your lifeblood for getting you to school or work?

yeah, that makes sense dude.

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A couple of hours ago, I would have agreed. I now know that some self-important mechanics will insist upon lecturing him about all sorts of tangential topics in addition to swearing at him and hurling insults his way.

Go with the Mexican. It's not worth the risk of crossing paths with some insufferable asshole.
Instead of being passive aggressive, why don't you get it out and say what you mean?

I'm enlightening the kid, and you're just pissy because I decided to explain to you A. the risks involved with fixing your own brakes and B. how the ****ing world works in business.

My bad, I'll skip the educational process of America and NOT enlighten those I might do business with, so I can deal with the headaches later of running into some guy who wants a motor swap done for 20 dollars because he drives an 81 civic work 50 bucks and doesn't want the cost of the work to go over the cost of the car.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:35 PM   #131
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Anytime Sauto starts arguing in a thread with me, there you are to talk shit on top, its like you two are paired together.

I'd be fine with your comment if that had been the case, but in the case that you didn't read this thread, he didn't say that. He didn't bitch like that. He went on a ****ing tirade about how expensive everything is and how he was getting "Screwed" because it should only take 5 minutes.

yes, it probably only will take 5 minutes, but you don't pay for 5 minutes of labor hour, you pay for the job, any marked up labor hour they have, and in many case, they won't do the job.

I explain to him and everyone else with the same misconception how this business works so they don't get the same idea this kid had.





You were told that, you carried on.

But, you see, there is more to it than telling you it wouldn't happen.

You need to understand WHY it wouldn't happen, because some day you might be a customer of somebody on this site, and you will establish a good relationship with them because you are that much more INFORMED on how these business are ran, so you don't insult someone, or that knowing what you know now, you can find a good, honest mechanic out there, because believe me, there are plenty of crooks out there with a Business name and Tax ID that will take your money when you aren't looking.

I'm just trying to help inform the average Joe so they know what they are dealing with.

Sorry for Enlightening you and the rest of the world so you don't look like a giant douchebag wearing an asshat.
The only enlightenment you've done is to highlight what a ****ing shyster you are.
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I keep hitting refresh HOPING for a new post. My God, I need a life.
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THIS IS POST FOUR OF THE THREAD AND THIS IS WHY I RECEIVED A LIFE LESSON OF 9.1 TRILLION CHARACTERS.

I even asked if it was reasonable...to which Bwana said '**** no', and then I just assumed this thread would die because I understood.

but no...a 21 trillion character life lesson ensued.
Well, you kind of bring it on yourself by responding to every post.


I don't want you to stop, though. This thread is getting me thorugh a day of sickness.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:37 PM   #134
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I'm the guy that spent $10 on XBox Live to give my avatar a Chiefs jersey and Air Jordan's...

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That's $10 more than I'd ever spend on an XBox Live Avatar.

If you can piss away $10 on an avatar, the $40 to pay a shop to make sure your window gets put on correctly is going to be a bargain.
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Labor Hour, you mean, and its how just about everybody does business.

I mean, there are those on this board that buy ASE signs and hang them at their shops without earning their certificates.........



And yet you wouldn't spend more than 20 dollars to fix a mirror to increase your safety and the safety of everyone around you, in a vehicle that is likely your lifeblood for getting you to school or work?

yeah, that makes sense dude.



Instead of being passive aggressive, why don't you get it out and say what you mean?

I'm enlightening the kid, and you're just pissy because I decided to explain to you A. the risks involved with fixing your own brakes and B. how the ****ing world works in business.

My bad, I'll skip the educational process of America and NOT enlighten those I might do business with, so I can deal with the headaches later of running into some guy who wants a motor swap done for 20 dollars because he drives an 81 civic work 50 bucks and doesn't want the cost of the work to go over the cost of the car.
Passive aggressive? Who is being passive aggressive? I'm not dropping subtle, backhanded digs. I'm saying flat-out that you are a crook. Nothing passive aggressive about it.
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