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Old 03-11-2013, 03:01 PM   #106
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:04 PM   #107
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But not religious standardization? Sure at least the kids don't.
The state does not do that in free countries.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:05 PM   #108
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I explained it enough. That's a true story what she told me of it. I do not lie about such things. Looks like you got nothing —AGAIN. Just peanuts to toss at those you disagree with.
You didn't. Financial aid goes to the student. In fact, most Universities deposit the money into student accounts used to pay for tuition directly. I want to hear your story about how the parent is getting their hands on it. I'm not saying it's completely impossible, but I'd like to hear about the mechanism allowing it to happen.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:10 PM   #109
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You didn't. Financial aid goes to the student. In fact, most Universities deposit the money into student accounts used to pay for tuition directly. I want to hear your story about how the parent is getting their hands on it. I'm not saying it's completely impossible, but I'd like to hear about the mechanism allowing it to happen.
It's not my story. It was relayed to me by my daughter rooming near the girl. All I know is that her mother wanted her daughter to give the money to her; ( she didn't) that some students get extra beyond tuition for supplies etc. They can cash the remainder if they want. Her other roommate spent some of that extra aid on clothes.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:17 PM   #110
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It's not my story. It was relayed to me by my daughter rooming near the girl. All I know is that her mother wanted her daughter to give the money to her; ( she didn't) that some students get extra beyond tuition. Her other roommate spent some of that extra aid on clothes.
This is an example of you distorting the truth. Previously, you stated that the mother had taken the financial aid for herself (which is highly unlikely). Now, you're claiming that she didn't get the money because the daughter didn't give it to her (which seems much more plausible). Surely, you see the difference.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:26 PM   #111
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This is an example of you distorting the truth. Previously, you stated that the mother had taken the financial aid for herself (which is highly unlikely). Now, you're claiming that she didn't get the money because the daughter didn't give it to her (which seems much more plausible). Surely, you see the difference.
I resent your accusing me of doing that intentionally and deliberately. The parent tried to get it, but in the end didn't get it. But the parent wanted it. It was info passed onto me without every detail. The parent also did not want her in college either. Okay, so it was sloppily put but that's not an intentional distortion of the truth. In my view trying to take her financial aid is not much different than doing it, as it was her intent. Even if she actually tried to access her account in some way, the girl was against her mother getting it. This girl has a lot of trouble with her mother.

As for aid being just for tuition. This is false. So that makes you a liar and truth distorter too. Perhaps why you you projected. It can be for books, room and board, travel, and miscellaneous expenses in some cases.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:30 PM   #112
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That's anti-social? Do you you know what the term really means?

I don't talk sports or friends at the dentist either. Does anyone? How on earth can anyone talk with all that equipment you put in our mouths? I hate when you guys ask questions and I can't answer with my moth stopped-up.

Perhaps they're scared of the dentist. I used to be. My kid hated it when she was young too. So many they act differently around you. I still have anxiety when I go. Many of them are too pushing selling stuff not needed to make a buck too. Or maybe you and your partner scare them.
Well, of course I do. First off, you cited Antisocial anxiety disorder. That is quite different than someone being antisocial. Did you even read the citation you copied. It mentions resisting "the norm". Cmon now, you are reaching.

Don't insult my intelligence. I've had plenty of courses for Peds in antisocial disorders.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:31 PM   #113
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I just called my daughter. She said she wasn't sure if the girl gave the mother some, and then stopped doing it, but it was not via the financial aid office directly that the mother got the money. It was the kid that gave it to the mom. But she doesn't like it and to my knowledge she didn't continue giving any to her.
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Well, of course I do. First off, you cited Antisocial anxiety disorder. That is quite different than someone being antisocial. Did you even read the citation you copied. It mentions resisting "the norm". Cmon now, you are reaching.
I yes, I did read it and saw that and disagreed with that one to an extent, like depending on what it fully means. Then again "norms" are also based on opinions too. Pederasty was the norm in ancient Greece. As I recall, without looking at it again, it's three of those characteristics that make one anti-social. In the meantime the same profession says homosexuality is the norm for them.

Sounds to me like you had some shy kids.

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I still fail to see how that environment can lead to a determination about anti-socialness. You haven't explained how they talk about their friends with their jaws agape and a drill in their mouths. You're not with them enough in enough settings or situations. Some people are social in social settings and are monsters at home. They hide it.
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Oh, and since YOU cited it, here are a few things that are considered "antisocial"
1. disregard for social norms. Hmmmm, I think you mentioned that you are proud of this.
2. Markedly prone to blame. Hmmm again. "its all the bad people in the schools influencing children"
3. Offering plausible explanations for the behavior that has distanced them from society.
Hmmm. Read all of your posts above.
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Socialization: Homeschoolers Are in the Real World
Academically homeschoolers have generally excelled, but some critics have continued to challenge them on an apparent "lack of socialization" or "isolation from the world." Often there is a charge that homeschoolers are not learning how to live in the "real world." However, a closer look at public school training shows that it is actually public school children who are not living in the real world.[ It's true too!]

For instance, public school children are confined to a classroom for at least 180 days each year with little opportunity to be exposed to the workplace or to go on field trips. The children are trapped with a group of children their own age with little chance to relate to children of other ages or adults. They learn in a vacuum where there are no absolute standards. They are given little to no responsibility, and everything is provided for them. The opportunity to pursue their interests and to apply their unique talents is stifled. Actions by public students rarely have consequences, as discipline is lax and passing from grade to grade is automatic. The students are not really prepared to operate in the home (family) or the workplace, which comprise a major part of the "real world" after graduation.
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http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000000/00000068.asp
So here we have a group whose purpose is the defense of home schooling. They posted an article in 2007. Yet, all but one of the sources they reference are from 1993 or prior.

Of ten references, one is of an unknown date, one is from 2004. The rest are from 1991, 1984, 1986, 1989, 1992, 1992, 1989, and 1993.

Doesn't this make you question the reliability of the article? Especially considering the fact that an organization dedicated to home schooling can't come up with more up to date sources and information? Strictly from a research standpoint it certainly makes me question the reliability of it.
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I resent your accusing me of doing that intentionally and deliberately. The parent tried to get it, but in the end didn't get it. But the parent wanted it. It was info passed onto me without every detail. The parent also did not want her in college either. Okay, so it was sloppily put but that's not an intentional distortion of the truth. In my view trying to take her financial aid is not much different than doing it, as it was her intent. Even if she actually tried to access her account in some way, the girl was against her mother getting it. This girl has a lot of trouble with her mother.

As for aid being just for tuition. This is false. So that makes you a liar and truth distorter too. Perhaps why you you projected. It can be for books, room and board, travel, and miscellaneous expenses in some cases.
curious, where did I claim that it is "just for tuition?" Money beyond tuition can often be spent by the student, depending on the financial aid stipulations; nobody outside of your mind is claiming otherwise.
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Are you really unable to distinguish the difference between Antisocial Personality Disorder, and someone simply being "anti social"?

One is a diagnosible condition with traits that lead to behavior that is often harmful to others. The other is just a behavior that people following "the norm" find odd.

Also, the fact that you choose to quote a definition, and then disagree with the part that doesn't support your argument, completely blows holes in your ability to reason and debate. Have a nice day.
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Oh, and since YOU cited it, here are a few things that are considered "antisocial"
1. disregard for social norms. Hmmmm, I think you mentioned that you are proud of this.
See my last post. No, that depends on what that means for norms. Norms change. There's nothing wrong with being different in certain ways. You are twisting that to suit your own bias.


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Link ? What post was that in...and what was the context. There is bullying in the schools. This is fact. There are bad influences there today. This is also a fact. That's not blame.

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Hmmm. Read all of your posts above.
Homeschoolers are distant from society? Explain?
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