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Old 03-18-2013, 11:56 PM  
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****Official 2013-14 Missouri Tiger Football Repository Thread****

We have two things to look forward to this year:

1) The potential beginning of the Maty Mauk Era. Mauk represents the best chance for this program to get back to a level of respectability after horrendous QB play cost us multiple games last year.

2) The last year of the Gary Pinkel era. Pinkel's entrenched cronyism won't play in a conference this competitive, especially if he couples his abysmal gameday coaching with lackadaisical, worst-in-conference recruiting. Pinkel was the formerly adequate meal that has now turned into a four pound bowel obstruction. It's time to jam a Fleet's enema up our collective asses.

Here is the schedule. We dodge Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas in the west and the Non-con is decidedly weaker than years past.

8/31: Murray State
9/7: Toledo
9/21: @ Indiana
9/28: Arkansas State
10/5:@ Vanderbilt
10/12: @ Georgia
10/19:Florida
10/26: South Carolina
11/2:Tennessee
11/9: @ Kentucky
11/23: @ Ole Miss
11/30: aTm

Looks like 6-6. Undefeated in non-con, 2-6 in league play.

I will eventually update the OP with a list of high profile in-state recruits that decide to go elsewhere after a half-assed attempt to gain their services. The inevitable cavalcade of *** rejects, skeezers, skanks, and scalliwags we get will fill out the ranks.


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Since every Mizzou thread eventually dies of AIDS, I recommend starting anti-retroviral therapy immediately. I believe Walgreens covers Express Scripts.


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Old 07-22-2013, 01:59 PM   #181
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LOL. Winters is basically a clone of Weatherspoon. Spoon was a very athletic, explosive 6-1, 195 2-star linebacker out of high school (with offers from Houston, Iowa State, and Tulane).

Other linebackers, like Wilson (6-4, 240), Scherer (6-4, 229), and Beisel (6-4, 225), were all much bigger coming out of high school. I get that Mizzou fan enjoys whining, but folks should at least be informed when doing so.
Winters is shorter, though. Listed at 5-11, and whispers that he's more like 5-9.5.

There's a limit to how much weight you can typically put on a guy like that and have him retain his athleticism and explosion.

Best case for Winters would be getting him to the 220-225 range, probably.
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:38 PM   #182
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Every LB without offers that we offer is Sean Weatherspoon you see. They are all going to turn into All-Americans and first round draft picks. Why can't you whiners realize this?
I don't think anybody (other than you) is dumb enough to claim that. Winters, though, is very similar to Spoon in size, speed, and explosion. I'm not sure how many of Mizzou's linebackers can match Winter's 39 inch vertical.

He may never play a down at Missouri. I have no idea. But, the kid is an athlete that performed at a high level for an excellent team.
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This has the potential to be the worst recruiting class in a decade.
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Old 07-22-2013, 04:07 PM   #184
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LOL. Winters is basically a clone of Weatherspoon. Spoon was a very athletic, explosive 6-1, 195 2-star linebacker out of high school (with offers from Houston, Iowa State, and Tulane).

Other linebackers, like Wilson (6-4, 240), Scherer (6-4, 229), and Beisel (6-4, 225), were all much bigger coming out of high school. I get that Mizzou fan enjoys whining, but folks should at least be informed when doing so.
Maybe in size but let me seem him play like Sean Witherspoon first before comparing him to one of the best Mizzou LB's of all time.

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Every LB without offers that we offer is Sean Weatherspoon you see. They are all going to turn into All-Americans and first round draft picks. Why can't you whiners realize this?
Yeah we pumped out All-Americans 3-4 years ago, not lately. And Its not whining, I'm pointing out facts but MU homers want only nice things said about a these crappy squads that pinkels been building the past few years. They deserve a lot of criticism from a lot of fans right now.
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Winters is shorter, though. Listed at 5-11, and whispers that he's more like 5-9.5.

There's a limit to how much weight you can typically put on a guy like that and have him retain his athleticism and explosion.

Best case for Winters would be getting him to the 220-225 range, probably.
5'9 220-225 is pretty damn nice for an ITB safety. Pretty much Shamarko Thomas
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:36 PM   #186
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I don't think anybody (other than you) is dumb enough to claim that. Winters, though, is very similar to Spoon in size, speed, and explosion. I'm not sure how many of Mizzou's linebackers can match Winter's 39 inch vertical.

He may never play a down at Missouri. I have no idea. But, the kid is an athlete that performed at a high level for an excellent team.
I certainly appreciate your optimism, but if he is so explosive why doesn't he have more/better offers?
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5'9 220-225 is pretty damn nice for an ITB safety. Pretty much Shamarko Thomas
There was a time when Missouri found diamonds in the rough, but the staff's ability to do that disintegrated at the exact same time that we started losing out on higher profile players.

Having 20 3* recruits isn't bad when you can turn some of the 2s and 3s into Sean Weatherspoon, Danario Alexander, Chase Daniel, and William Moore, but when your 4* players are Nick Demien, Josh Tatum, and your roster is filled with marginal DI talent, as they say in Ebonics, we be ****t.
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There was a time when Missouri found diamonds in the rough, but the staff's ability to do that disintegrated at the exact same time that we started losing out on higher profile players.

Having 20 3* recruits isn't bad when you can turn some of the 2s and 3s into Sean Weatherspoon, Danario Alexander, Chase Daniel, and William Moore, but when your 4* players are Nick Demien, Josh Tatum, and your roster is filled with marginal DI talent, as they say in Ebonics, we be ****t.
This is true.

I'm still really confused as to why nobody signed Alexander to an offer sheet this offseason. Worst case scenario, you'd force the Chargers to shell out some money to keep him.
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I certainly appreciate your optimism, but if he is so explosive why doesn't he have more/better offers?
He may get them. And we may then lose him. Then we can all complain about how we lost such a talent.
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He may get them. And we may then lose him. Then we can all complain about how we lost such a talent.
Absolutely possible. Since I know nothing about judging high school football talent, I tend to go off of offers more than stars...that being said, after another year of football, he could get them. I just have a hard time having much faith in a kid recruited by powerhouse programs such as North Dakota and Sam Houston st.
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I'm still really confused as to why nobody signed Alexander to an offer sheet this offseason. Worst case scenario, you'd force the Chargers to shell out some money to keep him.
Because his knees are absolute shit and can't stand the wear and tear of a 16 game season.
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Because his knees are absolute shit and can't stand the wear and tear of a 16 game season.
Ten games of Danario Alexander are better than 16 games of any receiver the Chiefs have had not named Dwayne Bowe in the last 25 years.
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Because his knees are absolute shit and can't stand the wear and tear of a 16 game season.
So? You make an offer, either the Chargers match and have to shell out more money, or you get a player that you might be able to develop. You don't lose anything either way. He's on league minimum right now, IIRC.
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So? You make an offer, either the Chargers match and have to shell out more money, or you get a player that you might be able to develop. You don't lose anything either way. He's on league minimum right now, IIRC.
It's a classic example of the archaic line of thinking in football. It's the most resistant of all American sports to change, and it is run in the least intelligent manner. The fact of the matter is that 8 or 10 games of Danario Alexander is worth more than 16 games of a replacement level player, but teams resist signing players like that for dirt cheap because they buy into moronic truisms like Bill Parcells' "You can't help the club from the tub."
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