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Old 03-19-2013, 12:56 AM  
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****Official 2013-14 Missouri Tiger Football Repository Thread****

We have two things to look forward to this year:

1) The potential beginning of the Maty Mauk Era. Mauk represents the best chance for this program to get back to a level of respectability after horrendous QB play cost us multiple games last year.

2) The last year of the Gary Pinkel era. Pinkel's entrenched cronyism won't play in a conference this competitive, especially if he couples his abysmal gameday coaching with lackadaisical, worst-in-conference recruiting. Pinkel was the formerly adequate meal that has now turned into a four pound bowel obstruction. It's time to jam a Fleet's enema up our collective asses.

Here is the schedule. We dodge Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas in the west and the Non-con is decidedly weaker than years past.

8/31: Murray State
9/7: Toledo
9/21: @ Indiana
9/28: Arkansas State
10/5:@ Vanderbilt
10/12: @ Georgia
10/19:Florida
10/26: South Carolina
11/2:Tennessee
11/9: @ Kentucky
11/23: @ Ole Miss
11/30: aTm

Looks like 6-6. Undefeated in non-con, 2-6 in league play.

I will eventually update the OP with a list of high profile in-state recruits that decide to go elsewhere after a half-assed attempt to gain their services. The inevitable cavalcade of *** rejects, skeezers, skanks, and scalliwags we get will fill out the ranks.


Razors, cyanide capsules, and Jonestown Kool-Aid are available in the break room. Second door on the left.

Since every Mizzou thread eventually dies of AIDS, I recommend starting anti-retroviral therapy immediately. I believe Walgreens covers Express Scripts.


Premium In-State Players:

Roderick Johnson: **** OT, Florissant, MO.
Monte Harrison: **** WR, Lee's Summit, MO.
Jimmy Swain: **** LB, Lee's Summit, MO


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Old 09-19-2013, 12:48 PM   #601
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Here's the other thing to consider:

Who are the elite programs that draw primarily from Texas? Oklahoma, Texas, aTm. Okie State is a notch above Missouri as well, but there is still plenty of second tier talent for Missouri to build the backbone of their team from Texas.

Who are the elite programs that draw from Florida? Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, FSU, with teams like Ole Miss, Miami, South Carolina, Auburn, and Clemson drawing very good talent as well.

We had established pipelines in Texas and severed them to build pipelines in states that are harder to enter and establish. Missouri has a better shot of getting 4* kids from its border states than Florida or Georgia, and if it needed to it could have used those states as a secondary recruiting area.
Mizzou was not pulling 4 star kids from border states as it was. Since 2002 here is the list of 4 star kids that were from border states (non JC) Tristen Holt, James Franklin, Gilbert Moye and Josh Barbo. That list sucks other than Franklin. If you go over to rivals and take a look at the classes since 2002, I think you are going to be shocked by the lack of difference makers from the state of Texas that have played for Mizzou.

This is my count of players that actually made a difference. Ziggy Hood, Chase D, Denario and Spoon (both 2 stars) Dom Hamilton, K-Law, Josey, Murphy and Hansborough, Mike Sam and maybe Sasser. Others are all role players for the most part. So we established a pipeline for the most part to role players and the occasional home run 2 star. Those two star types are most likley going to still be available to us with our current Texas recruiting plan.

I would argue that a 3 star kid from Kansas or Iowa or Illinois is not quite as good as most of the 3 star kids in Florida or Georgia on average simply based on the level of competition.

We have to keep our top level talent at home and then supplement with these south eastern recruits in my opinion. We play in that area more than Texas so we have more equity there now.

We probably won't agree on this and that it cool, I just wanted to present the other side of the arguement.
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Old 09-19-2013, 12:49 PM   #602
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According to 247, we've offered 24 2014 Texas recruits, and we have two commitments. For comparison's sake we've 33 in Georgia and have three commits, 38 in Florida with four commits, and 19 in Missouri with six commits.

We're arguing about whether we should focus on Texas or the South, but the biggest problem with this year's class is the in-state recruiting. We've got zero of the top ten Missouri recruits according to Rivals. We're on course for maybe one of them. That would be a huge departure from previous years.
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I'll freely admit that I'm no scout, but I would like to know what they see/don't see in Aaron that turns them off. This season I think he's been dinged up a bit, but last year he just absolutely laid waste to opponents.

I also find it interesting/strange how Ferentz supposedly wants to use him at OLB instead of RB.
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According to 247, we've offered 24 2014 Texas recruits, and we have two commitments. For comparison's sake we've 33 in Georgia and have three commits, 38 in Florida with four commits, and 19 in Missouri with six commits.

We're arguing about whether we should focus on Texas or the South, but the biggest problem with this year's class is the in-state recruiting. We've got zero of the top ten Missouri recruits according to Rivals. We're on course for maybe one of them. That would be a huge departure from previous years.
At one point two of the top six were committed to Mizzou in Andy Bauer and Markel Smith. I think there is a chance both come back into the fold. I have heard that Peavey has some tie to Arky and Roderick Johnson seems to want to leave the state.

I don't then the two Blue SPrings kids seemed to be too high on Mizzou's list as they thought they had Smith locked into that RB role. Mizzou tried with the other two top ten kids but Goodluck wanted to go to NU and by all accounts is pretty raw. Oh and the Wingo family does not seem to care for Pinkel to much so Raymond will most likley head elsewhere like his brother did.

Overall it was a weak year in Missouri with the exception of OL which we need but we cannot seem to get them on board. Blame that on the fact our spread OL don't make it to the league in my opinion.
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These were in 09. The Nike Pro Combat uniform. I loved them
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Didn't we have those for one of the last KU games when we got the funky Nike uniforms?
Sort of...they were Black on Black..new NCAA rules say, you have to have off setting colors or something like that.
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I like the chrome facemask, very nice.

On another note I read in the paper that Indiana pulled a Sheldon Richardson and were talking some shit. With our luck though they will probably back it up, never underestimate pinkel getting out coached by anyone.
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Sort of...they were Black on Black..new NCAA rules say, you have to have off setting colors or something like that.
Now that I see the picture, yeah, they're vaguely similar. I do prefer the tiger emblem to the M.
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I like the chrome facemask, very nice.

On another note I read in the paper that Indiana pulled a Sheldon Richardson and were talking some shit. With our luck though they will probably back it up, never underestimate pinkel getting out coached by anyone.
If you're talking about the "old man football" comment, he wasn't really talking shit. He was just talking shitty (shitly?).
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COLUMBIA — It doesn’t matter that the IU Sports Report isn’t affiliated with Indiana University or the Hoosiers’ football team.

When the IU Sports Report’s Twitter account put Missouri senior cornerback Randy Ponder in its crosshairs, saying he was in for a long night against “the best receiving corp (sic) in the nation,” the Tigers took notice.
“As a player, you like when people are talking trash,” Ponder said. “I try to use it to my benefit and go out there to play with a little bit more passion.”
Missouri’s secondary realizes that it’s facing its toughest test of the young season at 7 p.m. Saturday against the pass-happy Hoosiers at Memorial Stadium in Bloomington, Ind.
Indiana ranks sixth in the nation in scoring at 50 points per game and averages 339 passing yards, ranking 11th in the nation, under third-year coach and former Oklahoma offensive coordinator Kevin Wilson.
Far from backing down, Missouri is excited for the challenge.
“I’m geared up for it and the whole secondary is geared up for it,” sophomore safety Ian Simon said. “There’s been a little tweet that Indiana sent out about Randy and that’s got the guys all jacked up to fight them about it. We’re really excited about this week at practice and looking forward to it.”
Last season, Missouri managed only seven interceptions all season, an admittedly disappointing turnover output, but through two games this season, the Tigers already have picked off six passes.
“We had a bad taste last year, so everybody individually has taken it upon themselves to come out here and play better this year,” Ponder said. “We want to have a better season than last year.”
The early returns are encouraging.
“We’re not doing anything different than we did last year,” Missouri cornerbacks coach Cornell Ford said. “Coaching points are all the same, but we’re doing a better job of getting our hands on passes. We had a lot of opportunities last year, but we just didn’t look it in and tuck it away.”
Missouri’s secondary is aware of how critical turnovers can be, so it knows how demoralizing the missed opportunities are as well.
“Each and every player is paying attention to detail and doing the small things as far as looking the ball into their hands and making plays,” Ponder said. “Our coaches preach takeaways, takeaways, takeaways and it’s trickled down to the players.”
Especially after that tweet-heard-round-the-locker-room, Missouri’s defensive backs are eager to make it a long night for Indiana sophomore quarterback Nate Sudfeld — or sophomore co-starter Tre Roberson or junior Cameron Coffman, a Raymore-Peculiar graduate.
“We thought it was funny,” Simon said. “A lot of guys have been laughing about it, but at the same time it kind of lit the fire a little bit.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/09/19...#storylink=cpy
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Mizzou was not pulling 4 star kids from border states as it was. Since 2002 here is the list of 4 star kids that were from border states (non JC) Tristen Holt, James Franklin, Gilbert Moye and Josh Barbo. That list sucks other than Franklin. If you go over to rivals and take a look at the classes since 2002, I think you are going to be shocked by the lack of difference makers from the state of Texas that have played for Mizzou.

This is my count of players that actually made a difference. Ziggy Hood, Chase D, Denario and Spoon (both 2 stars) Dom Hamilton, K-Law, Josey, Murphy and Hansborough, Mike Sam and maybe Sasser. Others are all role players for the most part. So we established a pipeline for the most part to role players and the occasional home run 2 star. Those two star types are most likley going to still be available to us with our current Texas recruiting plan.

I would argue that a 3 star kid from Kansas or Iowa or Illinois is not quite as good as most of the 3 star kids in Florida or Georgia on average simply based on the level of competition.

We have to keep our top level talent at home and then supplement with these south eastern recruits in my opinion. We play in that area more than Texas so we have more equity there now.

We probably won't agree on this and that it cool, I just wanted to present the other side of the arguement.
Everyone agree that was need to lock down the state and we do a horrible job of that. However, I think that you're misunderstanding what I'm saying about border states. The move to the SEC gives Missouri a selling point they've never previously had in any of them. Kids from Kansas, Iowa, Oklahoma, or Illinois can't play in the SEC without a fairly significant relocation in most cases. Kids in Illinois and Iowa can play in the Big X, but the SEC is a far better league than the Big X. That gives Missouri more currency than they previously had in those states, and it's a unique currency. That's why they should be going after elite players in the border states.

Missouri is offering the same vacuum door-to-door that Miss. State. Vandy, Kentucky, Tennessee, and others are offering to those Georgia and Florida kids with the exception that they have to go farther to get it.

What's the unique selling point Missouri has there? What are the inroads?
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COLUMBIA — It doesn’t matter that the IU Sports Report isn’t affiliated with Indiana University or the Hoosiers’ football team.

When the IU Sports Report’s Twitter account put Missouri senior cornerback Randy Ponder in its crosshairs, saying he was in for a long night against “the best receiving corp (sic) in the nation,” the Tigers took notice.
“As a player, you like when people are talking trash,” Ponder said. “I try to use it to my benefit and go out there to play with a little bit more passion.”
Missouri’s secondary realizes that it’s facing its toughest test of the young season at 7 p.m. Saturday against the pass-happy Hoosiers at Memorial Stadium in Bloomington, Ind.
Indiana ranks sixth in the nation in scoring at 50 points per game and averages 339 passing yards, ranking 11th in the nation, under third-year coach and former Oklahoma offensive coordinator Kevin Wilson.
Far from backing down, Missouri is excited for the challenge.
“I’m geared up for it and the whole secondary is geared up for it,” sophomore safety Ian Simon said. “There’s been a little tweet that Indiana sent out about Randy and that’s got the guys all jacked up to fight them about it. We’re really excited about this week at practice and looking forward to it.”
Last season, Missouri managed only seven interceptions all season, an admittedly disappointing turnover output, but through two games this season, the Tigers already have picked off six passes.
“We had a bad taste last year, so everybody individually has taken it upon themselves to come out here and play better this year,” Ponder said. “We want to have a better season than last year.”
The early returns are encouraging.
“We’re not doing anything different than we did last year,” Missouri cornerbacks coach Cornell Ford said. “Coaching points are all the same, but we’re doing a better job of getting our hands on passes. We had a lot of opportunities last year, but we just didn’t look it in and tuck it away.”
Missouri’s secondary is aware of how critical turnovers can be, so it knows how demoralizing the missed opportunities are as well.
“Each and every player is paying attention to detail and doing the small things as far as looking the ball into their hands and making plays,” Ponder said. “Our coaches preach takeaways, takeaways, takeaways and it’s trickled down to the players.”
Especially after that tweet-heard-round-the-locker-room, Missouri’s defensive backs are eager to make it a long night for Indiana sophomore quarterback Nate Sudfeld — or sophomore co-starter Tre Roberson or junior Cameron Coffman, a Raymore-Peculiar graduate.
“We thought it was funny,” Simon said. “A lot of guys have been laughing about it, but at the same time it kind of lit the fire a little bit.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/09/19...#storylink=cpy
I didn't realize Chase Coffman's brother was at Indiana. Interesting coincidence that both he and their QB, Nate Sudfeld, have brothers who play TE in the NFL.
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