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View Poll Results: Should we have invaded Iraq on 3/19/03?
Yes 16 15.53%
No 84 81.55%
Too close to call at this point. Leave it to Gaz. Also, I'm a wishy-washy fop of a human being. 3 2.91%
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:56 AM  
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Invasion of Iraq 10 years later: Good move or mistake

10 years ago today the US invaded Iraq to overthrow the regime of Saddam Hussein. The after-effects of that decision are still being felt to this day, and obviously will continue to play out in the years and decades to come. At this milestone, however, knowing everything that you know now, should we have gone in, or not?

Regrets and hypotheticals aren't really the goal here. We could go on and on (and have, many times) about how the post-invasion situation was handled, etc. ad infinitum. You should vote simply on the facts as they have actually occurred over the last 10 years.

Poll forthcoming. Note that it will be a public poll.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:22 PM   #211
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Do you really think I care about the nonsense ideas you have of me?

"ignorance"
"hatred"
"stupid"
"pathetic"
"punk"

Moonbat symptom: Cannot grasp the concept of irony
They're not ideas. They're observations. You are clearly not capable of self-examination. Clearly.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:24 PM   #212
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I dnt think hes happy about painting himself into a corner with the hole Service smack.
Yup and his damage control is pathetic. Just absolutely pathetic.

It's really a shame for him he came back and removed all doubt he's really just another Frankie.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:25 PM   #213
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I don't wear my service on my sleeve. I don't even mention it.
I think that's pretty admirable. I think it's a sign of insecurity when people do that and it's a sign of poor reasoning when they use it against Republican politicians (I say Republican, because they never seem to call a guy like Barack Obama a chicken hawk as he rains death in afpak and yemen.).

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YOU called ME a chickenhawk. I ignored it the first time then you did it again. So who was trying to use "service" as leverage for voicing an opinion?
I'm going to give you two points for that takedown.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:26 PM   #214
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NOTE: Does everybody notice Penchief's last 5 or 6 posts were NOTHING but personal attacks, ad hominems and namecalling?

The guy is unhinged.
Funny but that's the only language you understand. Seems you've backed off doing so to me once I gave you a dose of your own medicine. Now you want to whine about it?

Typical bully behavior. You try pushing others around until they push back and then you cry like a little bitch...
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:27 PM   #215
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They're not ideas. They're observations. You are clearly not capable of self-examination. Clearly.
No they are assumptions. And you clearly don't know me or anything about me so why don't you just FINALLY shut the **** up, finish up your little moonbat circle jerk, and go crawl back under your rock, you commie piece of garbage?
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:28 PM   #216
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Funny but that's the only language you understand. Seems you've backed off doing so to me once I gave you a dose of your own medicine. Now you want to whine about it?

Typical bully behavior. You try pushing others around until they push back and then you cry like a little bitch...
OMG just go away little girl.

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Old 03-21-2013, 05:32 PM   #217
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Two things i could not be more sick of seeing here and sometimes in the lounge...

1) if you didnt support the iraq war, you must be an obamabot moonbat.

2) if you've ever served in the military, its because you werent smart enough to do anything else.

Both statements couldnt be more insulting or ridiculous, yet they get thrown around constantly.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:35 PM   #218
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I dnt think hes happy about painting himself into a corner with the hole Service smack.
Not at all. If you go back to when I first entered this thread all you have to do is look at the way shitsprayer came after me. I just wasn't in the mood to listen to his disrespectful bullshit today.

That aside, I stand by my assertion that he is a punk. Service or no service, he doesn't conduct himself with the integrity or character that someone who served would be expected to. Based on his behavior, I would have never guessed he served. I was wrong. I have no problem admitting that.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:35 PM   #219
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Two things i could not be more sick of seeing here and sometimes in the lounge...

1) if you didnt support the iraq war, you must be an obamabot moonbat.

2) if you've ever served in the military, its because you werent smart enough to do anything else.

Both statements couldnt be more insulting or ridiculous, yet they get thrown around constantly.
I don't say #2 about anyone but shitsprayer, and only because it happens to be true.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:38 PM   #220
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No they are assumptions. And you clearly don't know me or anything about me so why don't you just FINALLY shut the **** up, finish up your little moonbat circle jerk, and go crawl back under your rock, you commie piece of garbage?
Assumptions? Good grief, man. You've given us all enough material to make educated observations about your behavior. You are clearly a moron and a punk.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:43 PM   #221
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OMG just go away little girl.

You're the one acting like a girl. Dishing it out but when it comes time to taking it you jump at the chance to play the victim. Crying to everyone how my last five or six posts were attacking you. The irony of you calling someone else out for name calling is not only ironic but pathetic.

What a ****ing pussy you are...
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:44 PM   #222
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I don't say #2 about anyone but shitsprayer, and only because it happens to be true.
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Assumptions? Good grief, man. You've given us all enough material to make educated observations about your behavior. You are clearly a moron and a punk.
Are you two girls done making an ass out of yourselves?
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:45 PM   #223
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If you mention leprechauns and I say I'm not interested in talking about the leprechauns, that doesn't give you the opening to talk about leprechauns without changing of subject. It's still a change of subject.

And your interpretations of what my statements mean are horrible. What grade do you read at?



You haven't provided any evidence. All you've done is copy/paste walls of text that are filled with nonsense. There may have been a useful kernel of information in there, but your spam approach isn't conducive to advancing our discussion.



As soon as you sharpen your point to something worth discussing, I'll be glad to respond to it. Don't make me wade through a bunch of bullshit, false claims, and partisan opinion to find it though.



I think your point is that you swallow whatever your liberal overlords tell you to believe and you don't think for yourself. If you did, you'd be able to articulate a point and provide specific, relevant examples/evidence/support in a coherent manner instead of just posting lengthy tangentially connected liberal commentary hoping that the provocative titles will carry the day.



I have an answer for this, but again, it's a change of subject and I'd rather go back to the topic of misleading statements to find out just what you think happened.
Do actually have a response that isn't attacking all sources you don't agree with? And only a partisan hack doesn't want to discuss the cost of the Iraq war when discussing whether or not it is a mistake. Don't worry, I know its because you don't have a defense for the amount of money wasted. And I've provided more evidence than your faulty attacks of the source, which is apparently your only debate tactic.

If the sources I've provided are so bad, then it should be easy to show, with your own evidence why. Your inability to do so only shows that you actually can't disprove them.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:49 PM   #224
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Are you two girls done making an ass out of yourselves?
Somehow I don't think you'll ever stop making an ass out of yourself. It's just in your DNA. A punk, a moron, and now we know you're a ****ing pussy.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:54 PM   #225
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Yup and his damage control is pathetic. Just absolutely pathetic.

It's really a shame for him he came back and removed all doubt he's really just another Frankie.
No damage control. I don't have a problem admitting I was wrong. I was wrong. Doesn't change the fact that you've shown your true colors. You're a big talking punk who cries like a little bitch when he gets a dose of his own medicine.
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