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Old 03-19-2013, 03:59 PM  
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2013 NFL Draft: Dion Jordan will visit the Kansas City Chiefs

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/3...as-city-chiefs

Andy Reid, John Dorsey and the Kansas City Chiefs defensive coaches descended on Oregon last week where the Ducks help their pro day. Of interest was Dion Jordan, the defensive end / outside linebacker, who is considered one of the top prospects in the 2013 NFL Draft. Now there's this from Tony Pauline:



I'm assuming this is a separate visit to the Chiefs facilities, and not just seeing him at Oregon's pro day last week.

(This is the part where we read way too much into one visit.) It makes some sense though. Drafting this high you want players who can throw the ball or those who can get to the guy throwing the ball. There are plenty of question marks about Jordan as a possible No. 1 pick as it relates specifically to the Chiefs -- Tamba? Houston? -- but on the surface I can see why Reid and Dorsey would be interested in using the top pick on a pass rusher. We covered a lot of the Chiefs-specific stuff in this post.



Updated: Chiefs draft interests table | Dion Jordan scouting report

Reid spoke to reporters from the NFL owners meetings in Arizona this week and told USA Today's Jim Corbett that Dorsey has "put a tour together" to go see all the players who they might pick No. 1 overall. Reid said that, so far, they'd hit two schools: Oregon and BYU. The interest at BYU could be for defensive end / outside linebacker Ezekiel Ansah, who the Chiefs met with at the Combine.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:10 PM   #61
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Unless Jordan is gonna play ILB. Do not need.
A team can never have enough impact players which includes passrushers.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:13 PM   #62
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:17 PM   #63
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A team can never have enough impact players which includes passrushers.
That is true. Hali is getting older. This draft will be for the future and not the now.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:21 PM   #64
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My order of preference at the time being.

1) Geno Smith - all the tools
2) Matt Barkley - everybody would have been happy if we drafted him last year and he is the same guy.
3) Trade down - if we arent gonna take a qb, there is nobody we can't get the equivalent to an hour later.
4) Dion Jordan - if we can't trade down and are dead set on passing on qbs, the only pick is the best pass rusher in the draft.
5) Tavon Austin - guys that are a threat to score on every play can't get overdrafted. Especially when our qb is limited to shorter passes that the receivers need to make plays after they catch the ball.
6) Ezekial Ansah - not sold on him as a pass rusher at the next level, but the tools are there.
7) Eric Fisher (while keeping Albert to set ulus up with elite bookends.) if they are dead set on taking an OT, Fisher has to be the pick because he can play right tackle.
8) Luke Joeckel - this is an absolute last resort IMO. The guy got beat across his face against good teams (Florida and Alabama) and this option likely means Albert is on his way out.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:22 PM   #65
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My order of preference at the time being.

1) Geno Smith - all the tools
2) Matt Barkley - everybody would have been happy if we drafted him last year and he is the same guy.
3) Trade down - if we arent gonna take a qb, there is nobody we can't get the equivalent to an hour later.
4) Dion Jordan - if we can't trade down and are dead set on passing on qbs, the only pick is the best pass rusher in the draft.
5) Tavon Austin - guys that are a threat to score on every play can't get overdrafted. Especially when our qb is limited to shorter passes that the receivers need to make plays after they catch the ball.
6) Ezekial Ansah - not sold on him as a pass rusher at the next level, but the tools are there.
7) Eric Fisher (while keeping Albert to set ulus up with elite bookends.) if they are dead set on taking an OT, Fisher has to be the pick because he can play right tackle.
8) Luke Joeckel - this is an absolute last resort IMO. The guy got beat across his face against good teams (Florida and Alabama) and this option likely means Albert is on his way out.
This.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:33 PM   #66
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Rappaport said Mcclain has 3 offers on the table.

Dont know if KC is one of them.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:40 PM   #67
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Even though I'd love for us to sign McClain, I doubt they start a new regime by targeting a guy that was kicked off the RAIDERS for bad attitude/off field trouble.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:42 PM   #68
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Even though I'd love for us to sign McClain, I doubt they start a new regime by targeting a guy that was kicked off the RAIDERS for bad attitude/off field trouble.
Its the Raiders.

Rappaport said Mcclain will go somewhere where there is structure at.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:46 PM   #69
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I would almost put money on McClain going to the ravens
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:59 PM   #70
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Its the Raiders.

Rappaport said Mcclain will go somewhere where there is structure at.
"Its the Raiders"

is not an excuse

I heard the same thing last year about Kevin Boss and Stanford Routt, oh its just the Raiders they are good players

and they ruined this team/and are believe or not, shitty players regardless of the team stereotype. Foreign concept around here I know, but a turd player is a turd player and you cant polish it
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:02 PM   #71
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My order of preference at the time being.

1) Geno Smith - all the tools
2) Matt Barkley - everybody would have been happy if we drafted him last year and he is the same guy.
3) Trade down - if we arent gonna take a qb, there is nobody we can't get the equivalent to an hour later.
4) Dion Jordan - if we can't trade down and are dead set on passing on qbs, the only pick is the best pass rusher in the draft.
5) Tavon Austin - guys that are a threat to score on every play can't get overdrafted. Especially when our qb is limited to shorter passes that the receivers need to make plays after they catch the ball.
6) Ezekial Ansah - not sold on him as a pass rusher at the next level, but the tools are there.
7) Eric Fisher (while keeping Albert to set ulus up with elite bookends.) if they are dead set on taking an OT, Fisher has to be the pick because he can play right tackle.
8) Luke Joeckel - this is an absolute last resort IMO. The guy got beat across his face against good teams (Florida and Alabama) and this option likely means Albert is on his way out.
I'm assuming you watched a lot of Joeckel, can I ask why in your opinion he's being overhyped by everyone? I'm not even kidding, because many here hate the thought of Jockel, and at first I thought it was just pro Geno backlash, but it seems people here really think he's mediocre. I guess I want to know if you can think of anyone outside CP that shares that thought, because Joeckel is going to be drafted in the top ten, if not by us, someone will take him. What is every scout, every draftpert, and GM missing. You say he did poorly against better competition. Wouldn't that stick out like a sore thumb in his evaluation?
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That's not why I don't like Dion Jordan, ****face.
Okay dillweed.
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:14 PM   #73
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That's not why I don't like Dion Jordan, ****face.
Who, other than a QB could they take, and you'd say, that's not a bad pick?
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Who, other than a QB could they take, and you'd say, that's not a bad pick?
In this draft?

Nobody.

Nobody is close to what Geno gives you in terms of potential and proven production/experience.

The only guys that are close is Jarvis Jones of Georgia, and he lacks the physical tools to dominate at the next level. (As I've stated several times, he's this years version of Jerry Hughes. Very instinctive and productive, but lacks the physical tools to be dominant at the next level.), and Barrett Jones of Alabama.

Jones was a three time first team All-American at three different positions on the offensive line and won the Outland Trophy his junior year at left tackle.

Everybody else is potential versus potential plus production.
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My order of preference at the time being.

1) Geno Smith - all the tools
2) Matt Barkley - everybody would have been happy if we drafted him last year and he is the same guy.
3) Trade down - if we arent gonna take a qb, there is nobody we can't get the equivalent to an hour later.
4) Dion Jordan - if we can't trade down and are dead set on passing on qbs, the only pick is the best pass rusher in the draft.
5) Tavon Austin - guys that are a threat to score on every play can't get overdrafted. Especially when our qb is limited to shorter passes that the receivers need to make plays after they catch the ball.
6) Ezekial Ansah - not sold on him as a pass rusher at the next level, but the tools are there.
7) Eric Fisher (while keeping Albert to set ulus up with elite bookends.) if they are dead set on taking an OT, Fisher has to be the pick because he can play right tackle.
8) Luke Joeckel - this is an absolute last resort IMO. The guy got beat across his face against good teams (Florida and Alabama) and this option likely means Albert is on his way out.
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