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Old 03-19-2013, 02:59 PM  
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2013 NFL Draft: Dion Jordan will visit the Kansas City Chiefs

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Andy Reid, John Dorsey and the Kansas City Chiefs defensive coaches descended on Oregon last week where the Ducks help their pro day. Of interest was Dion Jordan, the defensive end / outside linebacker, who is considered one of the top prospects in the 2013 NFL Draft. Now there's this from Tony Pauline:



I'm assuming this is a separate visit to the Chiefs facilities, and not just seeing him at Oregon's pro day last week.

(This is the part where we read way too much into one visit.) It makes some sense though. Drafting this high you want players who can throw the ball or those who can get to the guy throwing the ball. There are plenty of question marks about Jordan as a possible No. 1 pick as it relates specifically to the Chiefs -- Tamba? Houston? -- but on the surface I can see why Reid and Dorsey would be interested in using the top pick on a pass rusher. We covered a lot of the Chiefs-specific stuff in this post.



Updated: Chiefs draft interests table | Dion Jordan scouting report

Reid spoke to reporters from the NFL owners meetings in Arizona this week and told USA Today's Jim Corbett that Dorsey has "put a tour together" to go see all the players who they might pick No. 1 overall. Reid said that, so far, they'd hit two schools: Oregon and BYU. The interest at BYU could be for defensive end / outside linebacker Ezekiel Ansah, who the Chiefs met with at the Combine.
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:13 PM   #121
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Arenas is one of the best blitzing corners I've ever seen. Guy can absolutely knife through a line.

We've wasted him the past couple of years. (Though that can be said for a lot of guys under the Crennel/Daboll regime.)
One of the many reasons why I wanted Ray Horton.

While I like Javier, I don't claim to be forgetful of his inadequacies in coverage from the slot. I do think that he can still be a productive inside DB, especially from a philosophy that utilizes his talents best, as you mentioned.
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:16 PM   #122
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I hope KC is not seriously considering Dion Jordan with their first pick. I watched several Oregon games with an eye on Jordan and wasn't impressed. Sure he's athletic but he disappears for long stretches without making any impact. He's light in the pants and gets blown off the ball against the run. I think Jordan has a huge bust factor.
This gets thrown around way too much in regards to nearly every OLB prospect this year. There's plenty of film of Jarvis Jones and Mingo getting manhandled as well in the run game.

I'm no huge Dion Jordan fan but his inadequacies against the run aren't significant enough for me to discount him as a viable prospect.
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:18 PM   #123
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From what I've watched from Sutton, I expect Javier to get a few sacks this year.
He was supposed to be that guy right away to attack off the edge. That's what they said on draft day atleast. Never really happened.
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:19 PM   #124
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He was supposed to be that guy right away to attack off the edge. That's what they said on draft day atleast. Never really happened.
It happened for a very brief period.

Eventually, Romeo started using more CD concepts out of subs that blitzed both DJ and Berry.
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:19 PM   #125
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The whole philosophy behind Romeo's defense out of base and sub fronts is to provide pressure with 4.

The problem was, he never had competent 3/5 tech DEs that could provide an adequate pass rush. With Romeo's defense, you have to have smart front based players that can quickly diagnose run v. pass and then provide an ability to get upfield. If Tyson Jackson had turned into Richard Seymour, then Romeo's philosophies would have been more productive.

Running 2gap principles is outdated but can still be effective. You just have to have elite/smart players manning your base front.
Ya I was hoping we would've traded for seymour. Hell, they would've been better off trading the 3 pick for Seymour. He would've had more production than Jackson
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This gets thrown around way too much in regards to nearly every OLB prospect this year. There's plenty of film of Jarvis Jones and Mingo getting manhandled as well in the run game.

I'm no huge Dion Jordan fan but his inadequacies against the run aren't significant enough for me to discount him as a viable prospect.
when are you changing your name back? and did you ever get to troll the vikings board?
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when are you changing your name back? and did you ever get to troll the vikings board?
Mods changed mah name. I guess it's up to them. I never asked them about it though.

My account never got activated. Bummer. I was going to bombard them with Clay's gifs whilst screaming "HE'S AN ELITE QB, HE WAS JUST IN A BAD SITUATION!!!".
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:24 PM   #128
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Mods changed mah name. I guess it's up to them. I never asked them about it though.

My account never got activated. Bummer. I was going to bombard them with Clay's gifs whilst screaming "HE'S AN ELITE QB, HE WAS JUST IN A BAD SITUATION!!!".
that blows. i was looking forward to a thread full of vikings trolling. ohh well, at least they are smart enough not the let the trolls in i guess.
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that blows. i was looking forward to a thread full of vikings trolling. ohh well, at least they are smart enough not the let the trolls in i guess.
I can't remember if the Romoception account got banned or was just denied on the Cowgirls board.
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I can't remember if the Romoception account got banned or was just denied on the Cowgirls board.
you can try the raiders next. Flynnterception.
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This gets thrown around way too much in regards to nearly every OLB prospect this year. There's plenty of film of Jarvis Jones and Mingo getting manhandled as well in the run game.

I'm no huge Dion Jordan fan but his inadequacies against the run aren't significant enough for me to discount him as a viable prospect.
I like Mingo a ton.

I think he's got better instincts and feet and lateral agility that Jordan. He seems to come through the line easier as well. Every time I watched LSU play, he was the guy that stood out for me.

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I like Mingo a ton.

I think he's got better instincts and feet and lateral agility that Jordan.

I love Mingo.
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I can't remember if the Romoception account got banned or was just denied on the Cowgirls board.
ok thats why its ponderception. I was like WTF does that mean
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I like Mingo too, but I worry about the production.

There are some guys at the top of this draft that have really great POTENTIAL, but every player mentioned as a potential top pick, there is a guy in the 2nd or 3rd round you can look at and say, "man, he could be just as good".

Shitty top end of the draft in terms of proven talent.
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There might be some smoke to this because the guy I talked to tonight said the new regime likes Don Stephenson a great deal.

Who knows though.
Likes him at what?
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