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Old 03-22-2013, 12:01 PM  
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Robert Redford In Talks To Star In ‘Captain America: The Winter Soldier’

Marvel Surprise: Robert Redford In Talks To Star In ‘Captain America: The Winter Soldier’

EXCLUSIVE: Here is a fun Marvel scoop. I’m hearing that Robert Redford is in discussions to join the cast of Marvel’s Captain America: The First Avenger, the sequel that brings Chris Evans back as the shield-carrying superhero. Redford is in talks to play a senior leadership role in S.H.I.E.L.D., the superhero collective run by Samuel L. Jackson’s Nick Fury character. Joe and Anthony Russo are directing the film from a script by Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely, whose Marvel script credits include Captain America: The First Avenger and the upcoming Thor: The Dark World. The sequel will be released by Disney April 4, 2014.

In between running his Sundance empire, Redford most recently starred in All Is Lost, the J.C. Chandor-scripted and directed survival tale. While Marvel was predictably mum as Kevin Feige’s unit always is on casting matters, Marvel characters have a tendency to show up in other superhero movies, and I believe that is likely to be on the menu for Redford. It will be somewhat ironic for the patriarch of independent cinema to become a regular in some of Hollywood’s biggest studio blockbusters. Redford’s repped by WME
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:09 PM   #136
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Saw this tonight. You would think for a movie subtitled "The Winter Soldier", that The Winter Soldier would be in the movie for more than a compiled 10 minutes or so. They could have taken Winter Soldier right out of the film, and it would not have affected the plot in the slightest.

Its like he shows up to advance the story, sticks around a couple minutes, and we don't see him again for 15-30 minutes.

Didn't really care for the main plot of the story either. It had some really cool action sequences in there, and they finally showcased what Cap can do without resorting to putting all the good stuff into a montage, but a couple of those sequences with Cap were inspired by a much, much better story in the comics called "Civil War".

It was a good way to spend a couple hours, but whoever decided to put with the trailers that this is better than The Avengers is smoking some serious crack.

Cap's portrayed infinitely better and has his abilities showcased more than in Avengers, but Avengers is by far superior to this.

Spoiler!

I thought they did a good job of making us care about Cap and Bucky. As well as they could anyways. They really didn't spend too much time on their relationship in the first film to make us care much for him.
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:10 PM   #137
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Y'see, I didn't see it that way with the Winter Soldier's limited appearance. He wasn't physically in every shot, but he was an intimidating background presence through the whole movie. You don't want to overuse a character like that, or he loses the mystery that was integral to the character.

And you could not have removed Winter Soldier from the movie; he was supremely essential to, if nothing else, Cap's arc.

As for what's in your spoiler . . .
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:14 PM   #138
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Did they make you take your tinfoil hat off when you saw this in the theater, or did they let you keep it on?
Don't be obtuse. I'm not the one saying the plot of a comic book movie is "too unbelievable."
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Old 04-06-2014, 12:15 AM   #139
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Saw this tonight. You would think for a movie subtitled "The Winter Soldier", that The Winter Soldier would be in the movie for more than a compiled 10 minutes or so. They could have taken Winter Soldier right out of the film, and it would not have affected the plot in the slightest.

Its like he shows up to advance the story, sticks around a couple minutes, and we don't see him again for 15-30 minutes.

Didn't really care for the main plot of the story either. It had some really cool action sequences in there, and they finally showcased what Cap can do without resorting to putting all the good stuff into a montage, but a couple of those sequences with Cap were inspired by a much, much better story in the comics called "Civil War".

It was a good way to spend a couple hours, but whoever decided to put with the trailers that this is better than The Avengers is smoking some serious crack.

Cap's portrayed infinitely better and has his abilities showcased more than in Avengers, but Avengers is by far superior to this.

Spoiler!
Shield originally did not know of the psychic program that could tell who could be a threat. That was all Hydra which Captain obtained the knowledge. And why would they not have the 3 new helicarriers with better weapons? They just had theirs crashed in Avengers and now know of bigger threats?
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Old 04-06-2014, 12:17 AM   #140
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How many taxpayer dollars did the crashing of those 3 Helicarriers waste?
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Old 04-06-2014, 01:03 AM   #141
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Old 04-06-2014, 08:24 AM   #142
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Don't be obtuse. I'm not the one saying the plot of a comic book movie is "too unbelievable."
....and Im not the one implying that it could be plausible based off of a paranoid delusion I have about my real life government. Seriously, GTFO of here with that noise.

When you take source material, put it aside and have a character or group of characters do something completely out of character, then that is unbelievable. That's not what SHIELD is, nor the kind of activity they would get behind. At least not in the source material anyway.

Its not impossible because its a comic book based film. But SHIELD getting behind something like that makes about as much sense as having Thor or Iron Man just go on some Punisher style killing sprees, and nobody can cry foul because "nothing is impossible in a comic book film."

Its ****ing stupid, it doesn't make any sense, ergo it is unbelievable.

To simply state to the audience that this plan is going on, and NOBODY in the entire SHIELD organization that was aware of it had ANY problems with the idea save for Cap, is both ****ing insanely stupid, and insults the intelligence of the comic book fans to which this movie is targeted.
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Old 04-06-2014, 08:29 AM   #143
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Shield originally did not know of the psychic program that could tell who could be a threat. That was all Hydra which Captain obtained the knowledge. And why would they not have the 3 new helicarriers with better weapons? They just had theirs crashed in Avengers and now know of bigger threats?
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Old 04-06-2014, 09:02 AM   #144
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Saw this tonight. You would think for a movie subtitled "The Winter Soldier", that The Winter Soldier would be in the movie for more than a compiled 10 minutes or so. They could have taken Winter Soldier right out of the film, and it would not have affected the plot in the slightest.

Its like he shows up to advance the story, sticks around a couple minutes, and we don't see him again for 15-30 minutes.
The dude that plays Bucky signed something like a 9 film exentsion. You'll get plenty of Bucky.

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Didn't really care for the main plot of the story either. It had some really cool action sequences in there, and they finally showcased what Cap can do without resorting to putting all the good stuff into a montage, but a couple of those sequences with Cap were inspired by a much, much better story in the comics called "Civil War".
I read Civil War and it really wasn't that great. Marvel getting way too far up their own asses for a story arc that didn't have to stretch out as long as it did. If anything, the fact that the themes of Civil War were addressed as subplot here is more evidence that Civil War was overblown.

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It was a good way to spend a couple hours, but whoever decided to put with the trailers that this is better than The Avengers is smoking some serious crack.

Cap's portrayed infinitely better and has his abilities showcased more than in Avengers, but Avengers is by far superior to this.
I don't think it's fair to compare the crossover movies with the stand-alone movies.

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Yeah. It would have better with a return to realism like we saw in the first movie about cosmic death rays in the hands of a Nazi splinter group.
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To simply state to the audience that this plan is going on, and NOBODY in the entire SHIELD organization that was aware of it had ANY problems with the idea save for Cap, is both ****ing insanely stupid, and insults the intelligence of the comic book fans to which this movie is targeted.

Not disagreeing with you that seems to be a bit too much of an unrealistic plot, but Capt. wasn't the only one to notice.

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That's not what SHIELD is, nor the kind of activity they would get behind. At least not in the source material anyway.

Its not impossible because its a comic book based film. But SHIELD getting behind something like that makes about as much sense as having Thor or Iron Man just go on some Punisher style killing sprees, and nobody can cry foul because "nothing is impossible in a comic book film."

Its ****ing stupid, it doesn't make any sense, ergo it is unbelievable.

To simply state to the audience that this plan is going on, and NOBODY in the entire SHIELD organization that was aware of it had ANY problems with the idea save for Cap, is both ****ing insanely stupid, and insults the intelligence of the comic book fans to which this movie is targeted.
See the Nick Fury vs. S.H.I.E.L.D. story line before bringing up source material.
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Old 04-06-2014, 09:18 AM   #147
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....and Im not the one implying that it could be plausible based off of a paranoid delusion I have about my real life government. Seriously, GTFO of here with that noise.
Wait, you think it's a paranoid delusion that the NSA is spying on American citizens without their knowledge or getting proper authorization to keep it constitutional? I'm not saying the NSA is killing people, but they've been doing some shady shit for a long time without the knowledge of a lot of people that should have known about it. I'm not trying to turn this into a political debate, but this stuff actually happened/is happening. In light of that, a conspiracy in a superhero movie just isn't even on the radar of things that are "farfetched" lol
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Not disagreeing with you that seems to be a bit too much of an unrealistic plot, but Capt. wasn't the only one to notice.

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And the other 98% of the staff in the control room. In an agency that compartmentalizes data, this not even remotely hard to believe. I think that was made rather clear through out the movie.
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I don't want the movie spoiled, but I'd like the "Avengers 2" teaser spoiled for me.

1. Is it possible to be told about that spoiler without having this film spoiled for me (FYI: the simple fact that Captain America will survive this film is not exactly a spoiler, but just about everything else would be)?

2. If it is possible, please spoil away.
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