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Old 03-23-2013, 03:29 PM  
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Expectations and Alex Smith

Just curious. Inspired by the ongoing thread about "Geno fan" expectations, and I'm curious what the thinking is on the other side of the fence. What do people expect out of Alex Smith over the next, let's say, 2-5 years? Specifics, even, yardage and TDs, wins and losses, offensive rankings, etc. This is not a thread with an agenda, I'm genuinely curious what people think, so let's try to keep this from turning into snipe thread #368.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:39 PM   #151
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look at that ****ing douchebag.

we better not give him 60 mil or I'll put a jihad on him.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:41 PM   #152
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Reid had Foles throw 38 times a game for 243 per game, yet he will have Alex Smith on a Cassel-like leash? Evidently, that's consensus view.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:42 PM   #153
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:42 PM   #154
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Reid had Foles throw 38 times a game for 243 per game, yet he will have Alex Smith on a Cassel-like leash? Evidently, that's consensus view.
There is no doubt in my mind that Smith will be throwing the ball more often than he did in SF. There is also no doubt in my mind that he will not have near the "success" he had in SF doing so.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:43 PM   #155
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Alex Smith takes a shit ton of sacks and is afraid to throw the ball down the field.

His football smarts are lacking in my estimation.
He does take a crap ton of sacks. He is not afraid to throw it down field. He just hasnt as i have stated, ever had the receiver the ability of Dwayne Bowe to throw to. he threw to Vernon Davis, and Delanie Walker, deep at will.
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Coaching matters SOME. But good players will shine SOME through the adversity of a bad coach. Mediocre to bad players just drift with the flow - like Smith.
Feel Free to provide an example of this. I have never ever seen this happen, because usually the great qbs, have a great front office, and coaching staff surrounding them.
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Seriously.

This trade is a win now move. And you are banking on winning with ****ing Alex Smith?

7 - 8 wins is a ****ing failure.
From 2-14, to 7-8 wins is not a failure. Thats a plus 5 win ratio. That is anything but a failure.
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Why will Alex Smith be better in KC than he's ever been in his career? I'm ready for a convincing argument in response to this question.

And I don't want to read, "Because of Andy Reid."
Alex Smith doesnt have to be better than he has been. He just has to keep doing what he was doing last season, and the chiefs will be successful.....
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Yeah, good luck with this: http://www.pro-football-reference.co...S/SmitAl03.htm

Last year, when he was ****ing pwning, he was throwing for less than 175 YPG. By the way, it's 2013.
The 49ers also at the time that he got hurt, had the second best defense in football, and the number one rushing attack. That was the design with alex smith. Dont force things, dont turn the ball over, let your play makers make plays.

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Link for Andy Reid offenses throwing it only 20 times a game for less than 200 yards a game? How many times a game did he chuck it with rookie Foles? I don't know, but am guessing a lot more than 20 times a game.
IM pretty sure that the eagles were trailing a whole lot last year. Something that in the past two years, alex smith hasnt been doing. And im sure that if the chiefs are winning games in the second half of games, they arent going to be throwing it all over, more like running charles all over people. Its not a stretch to say, that if charles stays healthy, hes going to easily have career highs.

It is also fair to say this in regards to alex smith. He is a great soldier. He will do what ever is asked of him. If andy asks him to throw 30 times a game, he will. i dont ever think alex is going to turn into aaron rodgers, but hes never going to be matt cassel......
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:44 PM   #156
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He is not afraid to throw it down field.
Bullshit.

He throws it down the field less than anyone else in the NFL.

Out of one reason: fear of being picked.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:44 PM   #157
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There is no doubt in my mind that Smith will be throwing the ball more often than he did in SF. There is also no doubt in my mind that he will not have near the success he had in SF doing so.
Speaking Respectfully, can I ask why?

Hes ultra efficient. Why would increasing his throws, decrease his productivity? When he did throw, he was completing 70 %. If they were calling the same kind of pass plays, but more often, why would his production not exceed what he was doing?
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:45 PM   #158
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Bullshit.

He throws it down the field less than anyone else in the NFL.

Out of one reason: fear of being picked.
Wrong. He throws less down the field than anyone in the nfl, because he throws the ball LESS than anyone in the nfl. Your argument doesnt wash with the actual stats of it Clay.

He was SECOND in the league in yards per attempt.....

Something is wrong with your logic.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:45 PM   #159
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Speaking Respectfully, can I ask why?

Hes ultra efficient. Why would increasing his throws, decrease his productivity? When he did throw, he was completing 70 %. If they were calling the same kind of pass plays, but more often, why would his production not exceed what he was doing?
I imagine Reid will count on him to throw the ball more than 5 yards down field.
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Anything less than 6 wins in 2013 and 11 in 2014 and a playoff win means the trade was a failure: regardless if it's Alex / Chase Daniel (ha) / Alicki Stanzney (lol) under center.


The FO office opted to make a "win-now" move with a middling level game manager. The team's stars aren't getting any younger, and it's clear there's pressure from Clark to put butts in the seats and stop the fan revolt, so they've put Dorsey and Reid into a corner where they should logically blow up much of the roster, build their own team with draft picks and hitch their wagon to a rookie QB.

But they're not doing that, so they have to make a run with guys like JC, DJ, and Tamba in the remaining few years of peak performance and get to the Superbowl before 2015.

No SB wins by that season, then we're going to be in the exact same situation the team was at on Jan 4 '13
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Link for Andy Reid offenses throwing it only 20 times a game for less than 200 yards a game? How many times a game did he chuck it with rookie Foles? I don't know, but am guessing a lot more than 20 times a game.
On avereage, a lot more than 20x/game....

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelo...877/nick-foles
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My expectation is Trent Green levels of team success with at least a playoff win or two. Anything short of that is failure IMO. Anything beyond that will be a pleasant surprise.

The reason I have slightly higher expectations for AS than what Trent Green produced is because AS has the benefit of a team that's on the rise whereas Trent Green was on an aging team that was trying to keep the window open as long as possible. I think the AFC West will be an easier division over the next few years than it was in the early 2000s too.
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no doubt a former club whore. Alex loved them.
actually you jackass, his wife is a former chargers cheer leader. You love to do research, research her before you open your filthy cock gobbler.
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He was SECOND in the league in yards per attempt.....

Something is wrong with your logic.
You do realize that ypa counts for more than where the receiver actually catches the ball right?
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I imagine Reid will count on him to throw the ball more than 5 yards down field.
nods. I would too. But, ill say the same thing to you. He was second in yards per attempt, and none of the 49ers receivers were top 5 in yards after catch.......
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