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Old 03-23-2013, 04:29 PM  
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Expectations and Alex Smith

Just curious. Inspired by the ongoing thread about "Geno fan" expectations, and I'm curious what the thinking is on the other side of the fence. What do people expect out of Alex Smith over the next, let's say, 2-5 years? Specifics, even, yardage and TDs, wins and losses, offensive rankings, etc. This is not a thread with an agenda, I'm genuinely curious what people think, so let's try to keep this from turning into snipe thread #368.
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:42 PM   #211
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I expect Alex Smith to be a slightly better version of Matt Cassel. But that's like saying one type of herpes is better than the other type.
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:48 PM   #212
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Think he goes into the Hall as a Niner or Chief?
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:49 PM   #213
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Think he goes into the Hall as a Niner or Chief?
he's going in as a kcc homey... first ballot, lock it up.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:14 PM   #214
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Seriously...the expectations should be a playoff game.

Trading what amounts to a mid/late first for a 29 year old quarterback that will make 20 million over the next two years ABSOLUTELY HAS TO LEAD US TO THE PLAYOFFS.

ESPECIALLY after we spent what we did in free agency.

This team has 7 probowl talents on it (Flowers was the next alternate) and a handful of other high quality players to go along with the 7 or 8 quality guys we added in free agency.

You don't trade a first round pick for a quarterback and pay him 10 million per year to get you to 6-10 or 7-9.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:16 PM   #215
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My expectations are that he is gonna pretty much suck ass.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:18 PM   #216
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Seriously...the expectations should be a playoff game.

Trading what amounts to a mid/late first for a 29 year old quarterback that will make 20 million over the next two years ABSOLUTELY HAS TO LEAD US TO THE PLAYOFFS.

ESPECIALLY after we spent what we did in free agency.

This team has 7 probowl talents on it (Flowers was the next alternate) and a handful of other high quality players to go along with the 7 or 8 quality guys we added in free agency.

You don't trade a first round pick for a quarterback and pay him 10 million per year to get you to 6-10 or 7-9.
I think that's their plan, but it's probably going to take longer than 1 year.

We gave up a lot more for Trent Green and he wasn't good his first year.

We're the worst team in the NFL right now. It's never easy to get to the playoffs after doing finishing last.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:27 PM   #217
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Trading for Alex Smith is a 'win now' move, and they're having minimal turnover on the roster (looks like Dorsey and Albert may be the only quality starters they lose). That tells us that this is not at all a rebuild situation like 2001 or 2009, that they believe in the players on this roster and that they believe a change in coaching will make the difference. There's no reason to give a year leeway to this group.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:28 PM   #218
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here's what's gonna happen fellas--if kc has a good draft expectations will again be high because, well, a good draft just does that to fans. If kc has a moderate to crappy draft then game over, you all will be freaking out.

Let's pretend kc has a good draft, then comes tc and preseason. This is where kc always wins the SB. You all will be happy as pigs in shit. kc will almost assuredly do well in preseason because, well, they just will.

Let's pretend kc has crappy to partly crappy draft, then tc comes and then preseason. If kc does ok in preseason some of you will be back on board, but the majority of you will reserve judgement or flat out crap fire until the real season.

as for the regular season, as I said in another post, I have no idea what to expect. If kc has a good draft IMHO then kc will have a shot to at the very least win a few more games than last year, but who knows...
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:30 PM   #219
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Let's pretend kc has a good draft, then comes tc and preseason. This is where kc always wins the SB. You all will be happy as pigs in shit. kc will almost assuredly do well in preseason because, well, they just will.
For somebody with a 2003 join date, it sure doesn't sound like you know this place very well.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:31 PM   #220
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Seriously...the expectations should be a playoff game.

Trading what amounts to a mid/late first for a 29 year old quarterback that will make 20 million over the next two years ABSOLUTELY HAS TO LEAD US TO THE PLAYOFFS.

ESPECIALLY after we spent what we did in free agency.

This team has 7 probowl talents on it (Flowers was the next alternate) and a handful of other high quality players to go along with the 7 or 8 quality guys we added in free agency.

You don't trade a first round pick for a quarterback and pay him 10 million per year to get you to 6-10 or 7-9.
It is rare to go from 2-14 to the playoffs in one year, no matter who your QB is. You are unrealistic.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:31 PM   #221
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here's what's gonna happen fellas--if kc has a good draft expectations will again be high because, well, a good draft just does that to fans. If kc has a moderate to crappy draft then game over, you all will be freaking out.

Let's pretend kc has a good draft, then comes tc and preseason. This is where kc always wins the SB. You all will be happy as pigs in shit. kc will almost assuredly do well in preseason because, well, they just will.

Let's pretend kc has crappy to partly crappy draft, then tc comes and then preseason. If kc does ok in preseason some of you will be back on board, but the majority of you will reserve judgement or flat out crap fire until the real season.

as for the regular season, as I said in another post, I have no idea what to expect. If kc has a good draft IMHO then kc will have a shot to at the very least win a few more games than last year, but who knows...

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Old 03-23-2013, 11:33 PM   #222
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For somebody with a 2003 join date, it sure doesn't sound like you know this place very well.
hmm, well, maybe it's the kc fans over on the omane that have high expectations and not this place. However, as you've noticed, I've had the pleasure of lurking around and posting on cp for a long time and I do think I know this place pretty well but we shall see...
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Trading for Alex Smith is a 'win now' move, and they're having minimal turnover on the roster (looks like Dorsey and Albert may be the only quality starters they lose). That tells us that this is not at all a rebuild situation like 2001 or 2009, that they believe in the players on this roster and that they believe a change in coaching will make the difference. There's no reason to give a year leeway to this group.
Of course there is. It is just not reasonable to expect the playoffs the year after 2-14 - especially with almost all the same players.
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It is rare to go from 2-14 to the playoffs in one year, no matter who your QB is. You are unrealistic.
Then the trade is even dumber than some initially suggested.

This regime and Alex Smith get no "evaluation year." Why? The overall record was disproportionately low because the coaching and managements situations were abysmal, and the QB play was ****ing awful.

Allegedly, these issues have been resolved. So now it's time to win or GTFO.

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