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Old 03-23-2013, 03:29 PM  
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Expectations and Alex Smith

Just curious. Inspired by the ongoing thread about "Geno fan" expectations, and I'm curious what the thinking is on the other side of the fence. What do people expect out of Alex Smith over the next, let's say, 2-5 years? Specifics, even, yardage and TDs, wins and losses, offensive rankings, etc. This is not a thread with an agenda, I'm genuinely curious what people think, so let's try to keep this from turning into snipe thread #368.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:16 PM   #121
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The chance of Alex Smith throwing for 4000+ yards with limited interceptions is possible
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:16 PM   #122
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I'm glad you geniuses are so sure of yourselves. I hope like hell you are proven wrong. Usually being so sure of something that is really uncertain is a recipe for being wrong. Good luck with that.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:16 PM   #123
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:18 PM   #124
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This looks like a pretty accurate estimate. But I do think Smith has the potential with our weapons and Reid's QB coaching, to eclipse those stats.

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I think we will win 7 or 8 no matter who the QB is. I think there is a chance we will win 10 or 11 games with Alex Smith (only because I don't think we were as bad as the 2-14 record indicates, competent coaching last year and we would have had a better record).

But the truth is that none of us know what will happen. Declaring Alex Smith a failure at this point is ridiculous.
I think winning 10-11 games with dingleberry is ludicrous. Declaring Alex Smith to be anything more than what he is always been to this point is ridiculous.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:20 PM   #126
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I'm glad you geniuses are so sure of yourselves. I hope like hell you are proven wrong. Usually being so sure of something that is really uncertain is a recipe for being wrong. Good luck with that.
Yeah, good luck with this: http://www.pro-football-reference.co...S/SmitAl03.htm

Last year, when he was ****ing pwning, he was throwing for less than 175 YPG. By the way, it's 2013.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:20 PM   #127
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The Jags are closer to a playoff berth with Gabbert than we are with A Smith.
I'm not a huge Alex Smith fan, but I don't believe your statement.
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No, I am saying Andy Reid believes he can make Alex Smith more productive than he has been previously, and Reid has SOME history in doing that with players. That's all I am saying. The chance of Alex Smith throwing for 4000+ yards with limited interceptions is possible, and Reid thinks he can get that. Main argument is that Reid thinks he can get that.
Link for his doubling production of any QB?
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:21 PM   #129
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I think winning 10-11 games with dingleberry is ludicrous. Declaring Alex Smith to be anything more than what he is always been to this point is ridiculous.
Cassel won 10, and with a far worse HC. Why not?
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:22 PM   #131
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I think we will win 7 or 8 no matter who the QB is. I think there is a chance we will win 10 or 11 games with Alex Smith (only because I don't think we were as bad as the 2-14 record indicates, competent coaching last year and we would have had a better record).

But the truth is that none of us know what will happen. Declaring Alex Smith a failure at this point is ridiculous.
Who's declaring Alex Smith a failure?

I also think we'll win 7 or 8 games no matter who the QB is.

I further think there's a chance we win 10 or 11 games, again regardless of who the QB is.

My problem is not with Alex Smith. My problem is with trading multiple second round picks for Alex Smith. I'm sure he'll do fine. But I don't think he'll give us a whole lot we couldn't have gotten elsewhere for less of a price, and I don't think he'll give us a whole lot more over the long haul than we could have gotten out of not just Geno Smith but out of several of the other QBs in this (or basically any other) draft class.

That's where my issue lies. I'm sure we can win 6-12 games a year with Alex Smith at quarterback. I'm sure we can compete in playoff games with Alex Smith. I'm also sure we can do all of that with pretty much any quarterback with this coaching staff and this roster. Well, aside from Matt Cassel, who seemed to be on a personal mission to turn the ball over in 2012.

If Alex Smith was a free agent, I might not have any issue at all. But we gave up a lot, and I expect the returns to be limited. Not bad. Not failure. Just limited. The trade didn't and doesn't make sense to me. Saying that doesn't mean I think the next four years will be a dumpster fire.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:23 PM   #132
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I'm glad you geniuses are so sure of yourselves. I hope like hell you are proven wrong. Usually being so sure of something that is really uncertain is a recipe for being wrong. Good luck with that.
You say that like that would be a bad thing.

Do you really think that any of us would be disappointed if he ended up a whole lot better than we think he can be?

I'd love four years from now to be saying "boy, was I wrong about this guy, aren't these back-to-back superbowls awesome!!"

I'd much rather win than be right.
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Who's declaring Alex Smith a failure?
Just read the last couple of pages of this forum. Hell, Clayton drones on and on about it all the time, so do a bunch of others.
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