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Old 03-25-2013, 09:31 AM  
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Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

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First reports from a footage leak.

http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2013/03/...of-the-dragon/

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The first footage of The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug has been revealed at yesterday’s live internet broadcast, although few firm conclusions can be drawn. The subject is certainly sensitive to Warner Bros. with several videos around the web having been withdrawn by Monday morning due to breaches of the Terms & Conditions attached to the production.

It’s OK to tell what happened though and we can report that the footage ends thus, with Thorin declaring:

“We are the dwarves of Erebor. We have come to reclaim our homeland.”

No surprise there then. The trailer finishes on some sound effects that are unmistakably like a dragon, but of course there was no sign of Smaug himself anywhere. I do not think anyone actually expected that, so what did become clearer?

Alongside some moody shots of Gandalf and Radagast in a mausoleum of a cavern, we begin to learn more about Benedict Cumberbatch’s other character in the movie, at least by implication we do anyway, with Gandalf asking why the sword Glamdring, “got out into the world,” only to discover that there’s much more to it than meets the eye, all of which is meant to tie into the Necromancer storyline.

Peter Jackson appeared very aware of the potential problems with the middle film of any trilogy, responding to one fan’s question with:

“It is complicated to do a middle film, but the advantage is … we have multiple story lines … and we can start following multiple characters.”

Sounds enticing, as making a middle film into anything but a filler with untied endings and ragged beginnings can be a problem. Perhaps we will see a few complete stories within the overall arc; who knows? It is now almost legendary that enough footage has been shot to complete several movies.

More will undoubtedly be drip fed us over the coming months and as Jackson revealed this video release ought to be considered first in a series of blogs about the film. First mystery up, doubtless awaiting further examination later is Gandalf saying:

“These tombs were opened from the inside.”

That’s a little mystery that Gandalf is exploring in The Desolation of Smaug, according to Peter Jackson at the event. He also said that Mirkwood is the scariest land they’ll explore in the movie and described Thranduil’s kingdom using concept art. Cinemablend reported that:

“This looked like that same creepy forest but with some castle-like structure in there. The realm itself is underground, but there’s light filtering in– We want it to be grand, like a cathedral. But this is not Rivendell. This is not the friendly land of elves that we’re used to in these movies. Jed recalls his time spent as a dwarf, held prisoner in Thranduil’s kingdom.”

The approach used in this teaser follows the pattern of previous production video blogs, so you will have recognised the strategy by now no doubt. It looks like we can anticipate a steady ramping up of the pressure from now onwards until the finished trailer is put on general release.
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:23 AM   #166
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:34 AM   #167
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Yeah, basically. I enjoyed the 2nd one, even though it was a little slow for a bit.
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Old 12-15-2013, 01:32 PM   #168
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Saw the 3D this weekend at the late showing. I generally enjoyed it, but it dragged in places. Even some of the action sequences seemed overly orchestrated/predictable. I actually dozed off at one point and my wife woke me when I started to snore.
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Old 12-15-2013, 02:52 PM   #169
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Saw the 3D this weekend at the late showing. I generally enjoyed it, but it dragged in places. Even some of the action sequences seemed overly orchestrated/predictable. I actually dozed off at one point and my wife woke me when I started to snore.
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Old 12-16-2013, 10:39 AM   #170
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Old 12-17-2013, 08:36 AM   #171
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Loved it! So much better than the first Hobbit movie.
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Old 12-17-2013, 08:53 AM   #172
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Pointless visit to Beorn's house?? Beorn isn't Bombadil. He's kinda important to the overall story. He probably COULD be cut out, but why would you? You're not helping anything by doing that.
Yeah, that's critiquing something to critique something.

I have seen similar critiques of the interactions between Tauriel and Fili.
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:12 PM   #173
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oh my god

oh my god

i just had a religious experience

i have never seen a CGI creature realized so wonderfully

SMAUG!

Peter Jackson should be directing Star Wars, not that hack Abrams.
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:13 PM   #174
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this needed 3 movies...my god was it ever the right decision
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:17 PM   #175
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like, smaug is so awesome....i want a smaug spinoff
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:27 PM   #176
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Maybe I just had low expectations after An Unexpected Journey , but I left The Desolation of Smaug thoroughly satisfied and enjoyed it probably the most of all of the series.

All 3 of the original LotRs were spectacular, but I found they had parts that dragged on, and the pace was a little slow at points.

I know others have mentioned this about TDoS, but for me, I really didn't get that dragging feeling. Maybe, you could have argued that once they got smuggled into the watertown.

Also, I totally wouldn't have minded if they spent a bit longer inside the Wood Elves kingdom- perhaps that'll be something for the extended cut when it's out on BR.

For the record, Lee Pace absolutely killed it with his portrayal of the Elf King. He's also starring in the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Actually I hated the Elf King. I thought the guy's acting was terrible.

Minor complaint, though. This movie owned. I do wish we could have had more Stephen Fry because he owned so hard.

God, the scene where Smaug woke up...just note perfect. If Ralph Bakshi saw this he'd commit suicide.

Smaug really might be the best CGI I've ever seen in a movie.
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:36 PM   #178
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Oh, and loved loved loved Gandalf at Dol Guldur. Ghosty Sauron was awesome too. I can't wait to see his rescue.
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I'm pleased to hear the positive feedback. I like the first Hobbit, but wasn't blown away by it at all. Looking forward to seeing it.

One question - is 3D a must for this, or is it just fine without?
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:39 PM   #180
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I'm pleased to hear the positive feedback. I like the first Hobbit, but wasn't blown away by it at all. Looking forward to seeing it.

One question - is 3D a must for this, or is it just fine without?
I saw it with 3D. I think 3D really enhanced Smaug to be honest.

I'm going to have to see it again just because Smaug is so goddamn amazing, and will probably go 2D, but I think this was one of those films where 3D really worked.

Also I may have to find a theater showing 48 fps because mine wasn't.
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