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Old 03-25-2013, 09:31 AM  
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Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

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First reports from a footage leak.

http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2013/03/...of-the-dragon/

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The first footage of The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug has been revealed at yesterday’s live internet broadcast, although few firm conclusions can be drawn. The subject is certainly sensitive to Warner Bros. with several videos around the web having been withdrawn by Monday morning due to breaches of the Terms & Conditions attached to the production.

It’s OK to tell what happened though and we can report that the footage ends thus, with Thorin declaring:

“We are the dwarves of Erebor. We have come to reclaim our homeland.”

No surprise there then. The trailer finishes on some sound effects that are unmistakably like a dragon, but of course there was no sign of Smaug himself anywhere. I do not think anyone actually expected that, so what did become clearer?

Alongside some moody shots of Gandalf and Radagast in a mausoleum of a cavern, we begin to learn more about Benedict Cumberbatch’s other character in the movie, at least by implication we do anyway, with Gandalf asking why the sword Glamdring, “got out into the world,” only to discover that there’s much more to it than meets the eye, all of which is meant to tie into the Necromancer storyline.

Peter Jackson appeared very aware of the potential problems with the middle film of any trilogy, responding to one fan’s question with:

“It is complicated to do a middle film, but the advantage is … we have multiple story lines … and we can start following multiple characters.”

Sounds enticing, as making a middle film into anything but a filler with untied endings and ragged beginnings can be a problem. Perhaps we will see a few complete stories within the overall arc; who knows? It is now almost legendary that enough footage has been shot to complete several movies.

More will undoubtedly be drip fed us over the coming months and as Jackson revealed this video release ought to be considered first in a series of blogs about the film. First mystery up, doubtless awaiting further examination later is Gandalf saying:

“These tombs were opened from the inside.”

That’s a little mystery that Gandalf is exploring in The Desolation of Smaug, according to Peter Jackson at the event. He also said that Mirkwood is the scariest land they’ll explore in the movie and described Thranduil’s kingdom using concept art. Cinemablend reported that:

“This looked like that same creepy forest but with some castle-like structure in there. The realm itself is underground, but there’s light filtering in– We want it to be grand, like a cathedral. But this is not Rivendell. This is not the friendly land of elves that we’re used to in these movies. Jed recalls his time spent as a dwarf, held prisoner in Thranduil’s kingdom.”

The approach used in this teaser follows the pattern of previous production video blogs, so you will have recognised the strategy by now no doubt. It looks like we can anticipate a steady ramping up of the pressure from now onwards until the finished trailer is put on general release.
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:42 PM   #196
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How else would they have? Cut it shorter and do it before he leaves the mountain? If they go any longer, then he is at Rivertown and there is a lot to have happen before he...stops.
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:45 PM   #197
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The guy that comes out of the pub is Peter Jackson, I think.
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:48 PM   #198
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Spoiler!
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Old 01-14-2014, 04:51 PM   #199
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Old 01-14-2014, 04:52 PM   #200
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What spoilers? He really didn't say anything.
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Old 01-14-2014, 05:06 PM   #201
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Going to see it tomorrow. Pretty excited for it.
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Old 01-14-2014, 05:08 PM   #202
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Was better than the first film but still nowhere close to any of the LotR films.
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:25 PM   #203
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Seriously.....I'm still blown away at how good it was and how much it exceeded it my expectations. There wasn't any point in the movie that stalled or made me look at my watch.
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Old 01-15-2014, 01:48 PM   #204
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Had a Hobbit watching marathon last night and this morning- watched Unexpected Journey and Desolation of Smaug. I love the mythology and lore of Middle Earth so these movies were certainly enjoyable. I've never read the books so I can't speak much to how good of an adaptation it is, but there was nothing really terrible that stuck out to me in either movie.

The movie was very well cast and I liked all of the characters, most notably Bilbo. I think hobbits are annoying but he's a very likable guy. Smaug was also awesome.

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I quoted this one because it is something that I was also thinking about during the movie. What exactly is the limit of Gandalf's power? Obviously it greatly fluctuates from The Hobbit series to LOTR (he can vanquish the Balrog but can't hold off a couple orcs and wargs at Dol Goldur?).

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He's a magical being so I wouldn't expect his powers to be defined, I guess. He can and can't do whatever Jackson needs to advance the plot or build tension..
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Old 01-15-2014, 01:54 PM   #205
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By giant fighting mountain dudes....do you mean the trolls that captured the dwarves?
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By giant fighting mountain dudes....do you mean the trolls that captured the dwarves?
I'm sorry but I'm not sure. Like I said, I watched both movies in about a 12 hours time frame and I'm having trouble remembering which scenes were in which movie.

They (the dwarves and Bilbo) were on the side of a mountain pass and all of a sudden boulders started crashing everywhere around them. They look up to find huge, humanoid mountain creatures going at it.

I think that was right before they were captured by the goblins..?
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I'm sorry but I'm not sure. Like I said, I watched both movies in about a 12 hours time frame and I'm having trouble remembering which scenes were in which movie.

They (the dwarves and Bilbo) were on the side of a mountain pass and all of a sudden boulders started crashing everywhere around them. They look up to find huge, humanoid mountain creatures going at it.

I think that was right before they were captured by the goblins..?
You mean these guys?

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This is from the book:

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"All was well, until one day they met a thunderstorm—more than a thunderstorm, a thunder-battle. You know how terrific a really big thunderstorm can be down in the land and in a river-valley; especially at times when two great thunderstorms meet and class. More terrible still are thunder and lightning in the mountains at night, when storms come up from East and West and make war. The lightning splinters on the peaks, and rocks shiver, and great crashes split the air and go rolling in tumbling into every cave and hollow; and darkness is filled with overwhelming noise and sudden light. Bilbo ... saw that across the valley the stone-giants were out, and were hurling rocks at one another for a game, and catching them, and tossing them down into the darkness where they smashed among the trees far below, or splintered into little bits with a bang ... they could hear the giants guffawing and shouting all over the mountainsides."
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You mean these guys?

Yep, that's what I was referring to. It was in Unexpected Journey; I remember now.

It didn't do anything to further the plot but I'm assuming it was just a nod to the book. A little bit of fan service.
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Yep, that's what I was referring to. It was in Unexpected Journey; I remember now.

It didn't do anything to further the plot but I'm assuming it was just a nod to the book. A little bit of fan service.
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