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DHS To Buy 360,000 More Rounds of Hollow Point Ammunition

Arms build-up continues as Congress demands answers

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
March 25, 2013

While the Department of Homeland Security continues to ignore members of Congress demanding to know why the federal agency is engaged in an apparent arms build-up, the DHS has just announced it plans to purchase another 360,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition to add to the roughly 2 billion bullets already bought over the past year.

A solicitation on the Federal Business Opportunities website details the DHS’ plan to purchase 360,000 rounds of “Commercial leaded training ammo (CLTA) Pistol .40 caliber 165 grain, jacketed hollow point.” The bullets are to be delivered to the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artesia, New Mexico, the same destination for 240,000 hollow point rounds which were purchased only last month.

Although the DHS has attempted to explain its mammoth purchase of ammunition by claiming the bullets are being acquired in bulk to save money and that they are for training purposes only, this has been disputed by reputable voices such as former Marine Richard Mason, who told reporters with WHPTV News in Pennsylvania earlier this month, “We never trained with hollow points, we didn’t even see hollow points my entire four and a half years in the Marine Corps.”

Hollow point bullets are almost twice as expensive as full metal jackets, therefore the DHS’ explanation that it is buying huge quantities in bulk to “save money” doesn’t make sense.

As we reported yesterday, concerns about the apparent arms build-up are growing, with retired United States Army Captain Terry M. Hestilow sending a letter to Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) warning that the ammo purchases represent “a bold threat of war by that agency (DHS), and the Obama administration, against the citizens of the United States of America.”

Questions from members of Congress about why the federal agency is buying up ammo, exacerbating shortages across the country, have been met with silence.

- Kansas Congressman Timothy Huelscamp said last week that threats should be made to withdraw funding from the DHS if it didn’t explain why it was purchasing so many bullets, remarking, “They have no answer for that question. They refuse to answer to answer that.”

- Earlier this month, New Jersey Congressman Leonard Lance said, “Congress has a responsibility to ask Secretary Napolitano as to exactly why these purchases have occurred,” signaling his intention to get answers.

- Californian Congressman Doug LaMalfa and 14 of his House colleagues have written a letter to the Department of Homeland Security asking if the purchases are, “being conducted in a manner that strategically denies the American people access to ammunition.”

Although members of Congress are treating the matter with the seriousness it deserves, the mainstream and leftist media have attempted to ridicule the entire issue as a conspiracy theory, with Atlantic Wire even suggesting that the story had its origins in a debunked email, a report that completely failed to even mention the admitted fact that the DHS had purchased around 2 billion bullets.

While the DHS continues to purchase bullets in large quantities, police departments have been forced to barter amongst each other in a desperate scramble to meet their ammo needs.

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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a host for Infowars Nightly News.


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Old 03-31-2013, 08:21 PM   #196
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Sorry, I don't buy it. Saying you want an entity to be just as powerful and strong as the military can only mean one thing. Nothing can be as strong or as powerful as the military with out the same abilities. And that includes the ability to wage war.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:07 AM   #197
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In fairness, I don't believe Obama was talking about a militarized civilian force. If you look at the entire speech, in context, he's talking about having a civilian force that does the work of "peace" or whatever at home and abroad, and not depending on our military to perform such functions. And it should be as well funded. The use of the term "Civilian National Security force" was just stupid on his part. But, in context, I don't think he was talking about what people think he was talking about. Here's the speech in total, if you can stomach it:



About the 15:00 mark.

I am in no way a fan of Obama. Everything he talks about in this speech is liberal progressive shlock, (and by the way none of the pie in the sky touchy feely shit he promised in this speech has come to pass, but whatever) but he's not calling for a militarized civilian force. At least not in this speech...
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:08 PM   #198
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In fairness, I don't believe Obama was talking about a militarized civilian force. If you look at the entire speech, in context, he's talking about having a civilian force that does the work of "peace" or whatever at home and abroad, and not depending on our military to perform such functions. And it should be as well funded. The use of the term "Civilian National Security force" was just stupid on his part. But, in context, I don't think he was talking about what people think he was talking about. Here's the speech in total, if you can stomach it:



About the 15:00 mark.

I am in no way a fan of Obama. Everything he talks about in this speech is liberal progressive shlock, (and by the way none of the pie in the sky touchy feely shit he promised in this speech has come to pass, but whatever) but he's not calling for a militarized civilian force. At least not in this speech...
Ok, let's say he chose his words very poorly; actions speak louder than words. And the build up of DHS is exactly what was described in that passage. His words, intentional or unintentional, were a foretelling of what is taking place now.

The good Captain still hit the nail on the head.
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:45 PM   #199
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Ok, let's say he chose his words very poorly; actions speak louder than words. And the build up of DHS is exactly what was described in that passage. His words, intentional or unintentional, were a foretelling of what is taking place now.

The good Captain still hit the nail on the head.
Foretelling? Are we talking about a fairytale here? Oh wait, we are.
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Foretelling? Are we talking about a fairytale here? Oh wait, we are.
Yeah, this massive DHS build up is just make believe.
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Yeah, this massive DHS build up is just make believe.
I hope you built your house out of bricks, that Big Bad Wolf is sure to come knocking...
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Why hasn't anyone posted the past bullet purchase numbers?

I haven't seen or heard anything from any news outlets. That info sure would answer a lot of questions.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:11 AM   #204
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Why hasn't anyone posted the past bullet purchase numbers?

I haven't seen or heard anything from any news outlets. That info sure would answer a lot of questions.
That is something I was going to research and never have got around to it. You have a point if this is really no big deal and happens all the time there should be a record of it. The other absolutely hilarious part of this subject is the posters from the left. If this was reported during the Bush terms I am certain they would hold this steadfast defense of the government
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:56 AM   #205
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That is something I was going to research and never have got around to it. You have a point if this is really no big deal and happens all the time there should be a record of it. The other absolutely hilarious part of this subject is the posters from the left. If this was reported during the Bush terms I am certain they would hold this steadfast defense of the government
Maybe you could get around to it. I've looked some and I've never seen the info. I've asked many times what past purchases have been and what would be the "correct" amount of ammo to have, but never get an answer.

This stuff is almost exclusively being hyped by the right-wing nutjob websites, so I doubt there would have been much about it during the Bush years. If it had been, I doubt the left would have made a big fuss about it. The paranoia and fantasies about having to fight a government effort to enslave the population is more of a right-wing thing. And, of course, your typical lefty would love to be enslaved by the government, so what's to complain about?
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Maybe you could get around to it. I've looked some and I've never seen the info. I've asked many times what past purchases have been and what would be the "correct" amount of ammo to have, but never get an answer.

This stuff is almost exclusively being hyped by the right-wing nutjob websites, so I doubt there would have been much about it during the Bush years. If it had been, I doubt the left would have made a big fuss about it. The paranoia and fantasies about having to fight a government effort to enslave the population is more of a right-wing thing. And, of course, your typical lefty would love to be enslaved by the government, so what's to complain about?
If this topic was going on when Bush was in office you would be going ballistic~
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Maybe you could get around to it. I've looked some and I've never seen the info. I've asked many times what past purchases have been and what would be the "correct" amount of ammo to have, but never get an answer.

This stuff is almost exclusively being hyped by the right-wing nutjob websites, so I doubt there would have been much about it during the Bush years. If it had been, I doubt the left would have made a big fuss about it. The paranoia and fantasies about having to fight a government effort to enslave the population is more of a right-wing thing. And, of course, your typical lefty would love to be enslaved by the government, so what's to complain about?
Maybe you cant find any info on ammo purchases of millions & millions of rounds by DHS because its never happened till recently. Just a thought you stupid lil ****
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If this topic was going on when Bush was in office you would be going ballistic~
Like I said, the paranoia and fantasies about having to fight a government effort to enslave the population is more of a right-wing thing. If the Bush administration was buying what seemed like "too much" weapons and ammo, I'd probably have assumed he was going to invade another country. Of course, I have no idea what would be "too much", so I probably wouldn't have thought much about it at all. There were plenty of other things to be concerned about with Bush. Whether he was going to enslave the population was not one of them.
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Bush invented the DHS. They probably bought some ammo.
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Like I said, the paranoia and fantasies about having to fight a government effort to enslave the population is more of a right-wing thing. If the Bush administration was buying what seemed like "too much" weapons and ammo, I'd probably have assumed he was going to invade another country. Of course, I have no idea what would be "too much", so I probably wouldn't have thought much about it at all. There were plenty of other things to be concerned about with Bush. Whether he was going to enslave the population was not one of them.
You are just trying your usual game, I have not said anything close to what you are saying. Also you are flat out lying about how you would react if the rightwing was defending this under Bush~
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