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Old 04-07-2013, 11:01 AM   #346
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People sure have aligned themselves with Geno. It seems that for several here, if the Chiefs don't take him, many will give up on Dorsey and Reid, a few already have. I think it's silly. Geno isn't some no brainer, there are teams drafting later than us that apparently think Smith is a reach even at their spot, and frankly, he is. Its only the value of the position that's putting him as high as he is. I know people are sick of bringing up last year, but this isn't Luck, Geno is a reach anywhere in the top ten, but someone will do it, and hope. Not reaching for a player won't make me angry.
I disagree. I think Geno would be a top QB in nearly every draft in the last 10 yrs. '04 would be a tough one, and he would have been #3 last year.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:02 AM   #347
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I disagree. I think Geno would be a top QB in nearly every draft in the last 10 yrs. '04 would be a tough one, and he would have been #3 last year.
All of this.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:03 AM   #348
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Alex Smith has those qualities as well, maybe more so.
Alex Smith doesn't have a pocket presence or a strong arm. His accuracy is literally only good for 10-15 yds.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:05 AM   #349
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I disagree. I think Geno would be a top QB in nearly every draft in the last 10 yrs. '04 would be a tough one, and he would have been #3 last year.
That's fine. You like him a lot. I'm lukewarm on him. I think in most years if there were two or three first round projection QBs, he'd be in the teens.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:05 AM   #350
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You mean you were trolling again...
To morons with no sense of humor, I suppose it might appear that way. Let's call it trolling for morons.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:06 AM   #351
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To morons with no sense of humor, I suppose it might appear that way.
Geno Smith is no joking matter pat. You should have known that!
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Geno Smith is no joking matter pat. You should have known that!
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:09 AM   #353
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You're an idiot. Go away.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:11 AM   #354
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That's fine. You like him a lot. I'm lukewarm on him. I think in most years if there were two or three first round projection QBs, he'd be in the teens.
I guess it would make sense for you to explain where he is lacking as a QB. Or which QB's in the last 10 drafts would be ranked ahead of him.
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How's that Stanzi thing working out for you, QB genius?
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:15 AM   #356
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Alex Smith doesn't have a pocket presence or a strong arm. His accuracy is literally only good for 10-15 yds.
I'll be honest, I haven't watched a ton of Alex Smith, especially in his first five years, but what I've seen goes against your ideas on his accuracy. I'm sure he's had his share of wild passes, and he doesn't have a great deep ball, but the numbers recently don't back you up. He takes too many sacks and has an average arm. Those are his weaknesses as I see.
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I guess it would make sense for you to explain where he is lacking as a QB. Or which QB's in the last 10 drafts would be ranked ahead of him.
I watched a lot of Geno last season, because I was excited about him, and half way through the season, I thought he was a no question first pick. He eats up lesser competition. When there's no pressure he looks unstoppable. As the season went on I fell more and more out of love with him. The higher the pressure the worse he played. I wanted him so badly to rise to the occasion, but he seemed to, crumble is the wrong word, but become, meh, in big games. And frankly, just body language, and his demeanor said to me its no my fault, its my stupid team.

Its my opinion, nothing more, but I think Geno will take years to figure it out at the NFL level.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:41 AM   #358
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I guess it would make sense for you to explain where he is lacking as a QB. Or which QB's in the last 10 drafts would be ranked ahead of him.
As far as the other QBs, do you want where I think Geno would fit in in each year? Its hard, because we're going off, against an unknown.

2004- Geno would go 3rd or 4th
2005- Anywhere from 1st to 3rd
2006- Same, anywhere from 1st or 3rd
2007-1st
2008- 2nd
2009- 2nd
2010- 2nd
2011- 2nd
2012- 3rd.
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People sure have aligned themselves with Geno. It seems that for several here, if the Chiefs don't take him, many will give up on Dorsey and Reid, a few already have. I think it's silly. Geno isn't some no brainer, there are teams drafting later than us that apparently think Smith is a reach even at their spot, and frankly, he is. Its only the value of the position that's putting him as high as he is. I know people are sick of bringing up last year, but this isn't Luck, Geno is a reach anywhere in the top ten, but someone will do it, and hope. Not reaching for a player won't make me angry.
Not if you're the Kansas City ****ing Chiefs, dude.

Want me to give you the list of starting QBs we've had since Len Dawson?

Enough ****ing around with "sure things" and "UHHHP HE MIGHT NOT BE A NO BRAINER." We don't have that luxury.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:53 AM   #360
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Not if you're the Kansas City ****ing Chiefs, dude.

Want me to give you the list of starting QBs we've had since Len Dawson?

Enough ****ing around with "sure things" and "UHHHP HE MIGHT NOT BE A NO BRAINER." We don't have that luxury.
I don't put that on Reid and Dorsey though. They shouldn't inherent the QB decision of past regimes. If they decide to take a QB they don't believe in because this fan base has suffered so long, and they deserve a first round QB, just to have one, I'll lose all respect for them.
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