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Old 03-26-2013, 01:24 PM  
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:00 PM   #136
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I don't need ****ing excuses.

the idea that Joe Flacco is even in the same league as a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady is ****ing laughable. It's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever read in my life...and King posts on this board.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:02 PM   #137
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what's Tom's record post spygate? SUPER CURIOUS. Please include Super Bowl record as well.
2012: 13-5
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2010: 14-3
2009: 10-7
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2007: 17-1 (Spygate was after the 1st game of the year, no?)
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:03 PM   #138
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I don't need ****ing excuses.

the idea that Joe Flacco is even in the same league as a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady is ****ing laughable. It's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever read in my life...and King posts on this board.
They have to be messing with you. There is no way that anyone actually thinks this around here.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:04 PM   #139
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I don't need ****ing excuses.

the idea that Joe Flacco is even in the same league as a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady is ****ing laughable. It's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever read in my life...and King posts on this board.
Brady and Manning have 13 and 15 years in this league, respectively. I wouldn't rush to put Flacco in that class, but he's certainly on his way there if he keeps this up and continues to improve.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:05 PM   #140
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2012: 13-5
2011:15-4
2010: 14-3
2009: 10-7
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2007: 17-1 (Spygate was after the 1st game of the year, no?)
I was talking about postseason record...

how good is it since Spygate?

If Peyton were the beneficiary of 3 super bowls from a cheating scandal so significant that the commissioner felt it necessary to destroy all evidence to not further damn the league...

I doubt everyone would have simply forgotten about it like they did with Tom Terrific.
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I was talking about postseason record...

how good is it since Spygate?

If Peyton were the beneficiary of 3 super bowls from a cheating scandal so significant that the commissioner felt it necessary to destroy all evidence to not further damn the league...

I doubt everyone would have simply forgotten about it like they did with Tom Terrific.
2012:1-1
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2010:0-1
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:08 PM   #142
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Peyton:
2012: 0-1
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2010: 0-1
2009: 2-1
2008: 0-1
2007: 0-1

I even gave Peyton an extra year. Unfortunately for him, Ron Rivera exists.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:09 PM   #143
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Brady and Manning have 13 and 15 years in this league, respectively. I wouldn't rush to put Flacco in that class, but he's certainly on his way there if he keeps this up and continues to improve.
Yeah.

He's certainly on his way by having one good postseason because of Rahim Moore when his team wasn't even willing to give him a franchise QB contract before the season because his entire career has been completely mediocre with some flashes of good play mixed in with a ton of Sanchez and mediocrity.

The idea that Joe Flacco is an elite NFL QB is a ****ing sham. He isn't. Not yet. He hasn't proven a thing other than he can benefit from the worst play in NFL history and a Brady choke job in the postseason (lol).

Honestly though...

Try and use some critical thinking. JUST PRETEND THAT MOORE PICKS THAT BALL OFF AND THE RAVENS SEASON ENDS.

DOES ANYONE ON THIS BOARD CONSIDER JOE FLACCO AN ELITE QB UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES? IF THE RAVENS HANDED HIM A $120M CONTRACT AFTER THAT LOSS TO DENVER WOULDN'T EVERYONE GO..."WTF?"

I bet you that, had they lost to Denver...Joe Flacco would have been tagged and perhaps traded for picks while Baltimore overwent a full rebuilding year.

They are going to regret signing him to that deal. He simply isn't a QB that can contend for Super Bowl's year in and year out. He's Alex Smith with a better arm and less accuracy and more inconsistency.

Is he better than Cassel? Yes.

Can he win games if he has an elite team around him? Yes.

Can he carry a team like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers? NO. BIG NO.
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Tom has more post season wins in the past 2 years than Peyton does in the last 5 he's played.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:10 PM   #145
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2012:1-1
2011:2-1
2010:0-1
2009: 0-1
2007:2-1
where is the 2008:

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you can't at a Peyton injury and not at a Tom injury

I can no longer debate this topic with someone who displays such bias. It's irresponsible.
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Tom has more post season wins in the past 2 years than Peyton does in the last 5 he's played.
Yes. And those wins led to a HUGE CHOKE JOB THROW to a wide open Wes Welker that would have won a Super Bowl. Instead Brady made a TERRIBLE throw and Welker couldn't haul it in and they lost. That's 100% choke.

and then this year...my God...that was embarrassing. Even Peyton Manning had the Ravens beat...Brady shit his pants AGAIN against a Flacco team except this year Lee Evans didn't bail him out...

Tom Brady is the biggest postseason choker I've ever seen in my life. Shit, he had Peyton beat BADLY Peyton's Super Bowl year and Tom choked the game away majorly...that was embarrassing.

I just hate watching chokers play in the postseason so Tom is real hard to watch.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:13 PM   #147
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where is the 2008:

bias

you can't at a Peyton injury and not at a Tom injury

I can no longer debate this topic with someone who displays such bias. It's irresponsible.
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I respect Tom for his great regular season play and for the ability to play under the best coach to ever coach the game...that's fun to watch.

It's just those wretched choke jobs post spygate that make him really tough for me to cheer for...he could have won 6 or 7 Super Bowls but his postseason performances have just been abysmal. I just don't understand why, post cheating with all of that cheater tape that told him what defense he would be facing pre-snap, a guy with so much charisma and so much going for him always chokes it away in the biggest of moments.

It's a big flaw on his resume...Tom is just a big choker. I bet he's a good guy, though.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:14 PM   #149
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Yes. And those wins led to a HUGE CHOKE JOB THROW to a wide open Wes Welker that would have won a Super Bowl. Instead Brady made a TERRIBLE throw and Welker couldn't haul it in and they lost. That's 100% choke.

and then this year...my God...that was embarrassing. Even Peyton Manning had the Ravens beat...Brady shit his pants AGAIN against a Flacco team except this year Lee Evans didn't bail him out...

Tom Brady is the biggest postseason choker I've ever seen in my life. Shit, he had Peyton beat BADLY Peyton's Super Bowl year and Tom choked the game away majorly...that was embarrassing.

I just hate watching chokers play in the postseason so Tom is real hard to watch.
The statistics largely say otherwise.
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Oh no I can admit Peyton has had some spotty postseason performances. One could argue that, despite always having to carry his team on his back leading to wins only coming when he performs perfectly, some of his postseason performances have been very lackluster.

However, in terms of choking he isn't even in Tom Brady's league.

Just like Tom Brady isn't in Peyton Manning's league in terms of QB'ing.
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