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Old 03-27-2013, 03:42 PM  
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Creationist offers $10K to prove Bible wrong

Creationist offers $10K to prove Bible wrong
Betting that science supports Genesis and not Darwin.

By Rich_Maloof

A die-hard creationist is putting his money where his faith is.
Dr. Joseph Mastropaolo believes unequivocally that the Bible's book of Genesis is a literal account of our universe's origin. Standing firmly behind his convictions, which he believes can be scientifically demonstrated, Mastropaolo has issued a challenge: Anyone who can prove, using hard evidence, that science contradicts the literal reading of Genesis walks away $10,000 richer.

Be warned: You don't want to sign up for this challenge without your facts in order. Contestants must arrive ready to argue their position against Mastropaolo with their own $10k in hand — and be willing to lose the money if Mastropaolo's scientific evidence of creationism prevails. So it's not so much a reward situation as a high-stakes bet. Whether or not the Bible says gambling is a sin remains a debate for another time.

The Literal Genesis Trial Contest is detailed at the Creation Science Hall of Fame — "Honoring those who honored God's Word as literally written in Genesis" — where the challenge is addressed, in good competitive spirit, to theistic evolutionists, allegoricallists, and "all you 'Long Agers.'"

According to contest rules, a mini-trial will be held in a courthouse where the contestant and Mastropaolo are to each put $10,000 in escrow. A superior court justice will decide which party prevails and is awarded the $20,000. (The Creation Science Hall of Fame is hosting the challenge but says it is not a party to the judge or any other entity involved.)

If you plan on arriving with a high schooler's grasp of evolution and a copy of Darwin's "On the Origin of Species," well, may God be with you. Mastropaolo is a highly educated, highly accomplished scientist. He's a recognized expert in kinesiology (the scientific study of body movement, aka human kinetics) and a recipient of Vice Presidential Awards for his studies on life in space.
And he believes that evolution cannot be proved.

"[Evolutionists] are not stupid people," Mastropaolo told The Guardian. "They are bright, but they are bright enough to know there is no scientific evidence they can give in a mini-trial."

Mastropaolo's bio indicates he has already scientifically proved that Adam and Eve were genetically perfect, that "ape-men are frauds" and that the Earth is 6,800 years old, give or take eight and a half centuries.

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Old 03-28-2013, 09:18 PM   #121
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:21 PM   #122
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This topic usually is about macro evolution though. Not micro.
It's no surprise you are on this side of the debate. You misinterpret facts and regurgitate ignorant statements in every one of your posts. Just tack creationism onto that.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:22 PM   #123
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Anyone who denies evolution denies modern medicine. It's as simple as that. We hear about evolution everyday in our lectures, and a medical education without evolution would be hollow and incomplete.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:00 PM   #124
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This topic usually is about macro evolution though. Not micro.
Cool, what he said is still wrong
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:08 PM   #125
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Anyone who denies evolution denies modern medicine. It's as simple as that. We hear about evolution everyday in our lectures, and a medical education without evolution would be hollow and incomplete.
Try to explain that to someone without a science degree. You really can't.

The fact is the theory of evolution has yielded a veritable horn of plenty when it comes to research results. Evolution might have flaws, especially in the area of speciation of highly developed organisms (there's REAL strong evidence for evolution of micro-organisms). Creationism has produced nothing in the lab---and yielded no beneficial applications.

When creationists can use creationist theory and invent something that helps poeple, then they can talk about space in the high school biology text. Put up or shut up.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:10 PM   #126
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Try to explain that to someone without a science degree. You really can't.

The fact is the theory of evolution has yielded a veritable horn of plenty when it comes to research results. Evolution might have flaws, especially in the area of speciation of highly developed organisms (there's REAL strong evidence for evolution of micro-organisms). Creationism has produced nothing in the lab---and yielded no beneficial applications.

When creationists can use creationist theory and invent something that helps poeple, then they can talk about space in the high school biology text. Put up or shut up.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:14 PM   #127
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:17 PM   #128
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Try to explain that to someone without a science degree. You really can't.

The fact is the theory of evolution has yielded a veritable horn of plenty when it comes to research results. Evolution might have flaws, especially in the area of speciation of highly developed organisms (there's REAL strong evidence for evolution of micro-organisms). Creationism has produced nothing in the lab---and yielded no beneficial applications.

When creationists can use creationist theory and invent something that helps poeple, then they can talk about space in the high school biology text. Put up or shut up.
I would replace "flaws" with "questions", but otherwise, great post.
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That's really what it comes down to, though. Evolutionary theory has helped develop countless medical and biological inventions. It is very possible there are flaws in the theory. Nonetheless, what we currently have is functional and useful.

Creationism has produced nothing except theological essays and sermons.
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That's really what it comes down to, though. Evolutionary theory has helped develop countless medical and biological inventions. It is very possible there are flaws in the theory. Nonetheless, what we currently have is functional and useful.

Creationism has produced nothing except theological essays and sermons.
Maybe a trip to Petersburg, Kentucky would change your mind.

http://creationmuseum.org/

Its exhibits reject universal common descent and biological evolution, and assert that the Earth and all of its life forms were created 6,000 years ago over a six-day period. In contrast to the scientific consensus, exhibits promote young earth creationist claims, including the idea that humans and dinosaurs once coexisted, and that dinosaurs were on Noah's Ark.
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I would replace "flaws" with "questions", but otherwise, great post.
I'm trying to give the other side as much credit as possible. Even if "flaws" is true, what we still have has proved useful. Until you show researchers something better, they'd be fools to not use it.
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Maybe a trip to Petersburg, Kentucky would change your mind.

http://creationmuseum.org/

Its exhibits reject universal common descent and biological evolution, and assert that the Earth and all of its life forms were created 6,000 years ago over a six-day period. In contrast to the scientific consensus, exhibits promote young earth creationist claims, including the idea that humans and dinosaurs once coexisted, and that dinosaurs were on Noah's Ark.
A show-and-tell sermon is still a sermon.

Isn't that the museum created by tax felon Kent Hovind?
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A show-and-tell sermon is still a sermon.

Isn't that the museum created by tax felon Kent Hovind?
That's Dinosaur Adventure Land in Florida. Kind of the same deal, but with some rides or something.
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Given your history on the "issue," well yeah...that's about it....
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It's no surprise you are on this side of the debate. You misinterpret facts and regurgitate ignorant statements in every one of your posts. Just tack creationism onto that.
'Cept you're wrong like others who have conjectured about where I stand on evolution. ASSuming makes an ass out of you.
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