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Police make arrests at Thatcher death street parties in Bristol and Brixton

Officers injured during public disorder as hundreds turn out across cities in Britain to celebrate former prime minister's death


Police officers were injured and arrests were made as protesters held street parties in cities around Britain celebrating the death of Margaret Thatcher.

One officer was taken to hospital and five others were injured in clashes in Bristol after a street party turned violent. A man was arrested after revellers refused to leave the street party, and threw cans and bottles at police, according to Avon and Somerset police. A police vehicle was damaged and an officer remains in hospital. His injuries are not thought to be serious.

Police said the group "refused requests to peacefully disperse", leading to the use of shields and batons by officers. A spokeswoman said police received a number of calls from residents about the party.

She said party-goers were "throwing stuff around and starting fires" before police arrived.





In Brixton, south London, people gathered from around 5.30pm in Windrush Square and by nightfall had attracted about 200 protesters after a party was announced on Facebook. The Ritzy cinema was festooned in banners, with the now showing sign rearranged to spell out "Margaret Thatcher dead". One banner read: "Rejoice, Thatcher is dead." Others chanted: "Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, dead, dead, dead."

The Metropolitan police said there had been low-level disorder in Brixton. Two women were arrested on suspicion of burglary after a shop front was broken.

"Last night police dealt with approximately 100 people who caused low level disorder," said a Met spokesman. Extra officers were called to the scene to ensure "public safety and accessibility to public highways", he added.

On the Facebook page set up to organise the party, a woman had written: "Well I hope the idiots who told me they were off down Brixton High Street for the sake of the community (sic) are proud of the fact they smashed the windows of Barnardo's the Children's charity, but left Foxtons, the banks and McDonald's in tact. I'm proud of the people that hung around to clear up."





In Leeds, a group gathered to hand out "Thatcher's dead cake", singing and cheering at one of several street parties. In YouTube footage a man is seen chanting 'If you all hate Thatcher clap your hands' into a megaphone. While in Liverpool, where many reviled Thatcher for her role in the closure of the city's docks and her perceived role and views on the Hillsborough disaster, there was a gathering lit by red flares on the steps of Lime street station. Police said they had not been called to any disturbances in the city related to the former prime minister's death.

Around 300 people gathered in Glasgow's George Square which experienced highly charged poll tax protests in 1989, after the introduction of one of Thatcher's most divisive measures. Revellers wore party hats, and popped a bottle of champagne while streamers were thrown into the sky. Groups such as the Communist party, the Socialist party, the Anti-Bedroom Tax Federation and the International Socialist Group were joined by members of the public. Martin Chomsky, the lead singer of Chomsky Allstars, performed his song So Long Margaret Thatcher in George Square. "There are mixed emotions. I was never brought up to celebrate anyone's death but the pain she brought to Latin America, Europe and around the world should be remembered," he said.

"I would rather that Thatcherism was dead because she is mostly to blame for what is going on today. She is responsible, but not solely, for the massive gap between the rich and the poor."




In Derry and Belfast, there were republican celebrations. In one incident in Derry a petrol bomb was thrown at a passing police patrol near Free Derry Corner during a street party. In the Falls Road area of west Belfast, car horns were sounded and champagne bottles cracked open as hundreds gathered to wave flags and chant.

In Trafalgar Square, central London, champagne bottles were passed around as people celebrated, while a Facebook group is calling for another celebration in Trafalgar Square on Saturday from 6pm. A separate campaign has been launched to make Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead reach No1 in the music charts.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:41 PM   #16
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"a bit more left than left center" -- so left-left center? left-no center? Your qualification seems to lead to an absurd amount categorization. What I said was correct in the general use of that term.

I'm not going to let your exceptional example establish a rule. It's intellectually dishonest and would be like saying that Republicans control local politics by bribery and pointing to Jay Savino for this rule.

Is this how you intend to conduct your arguments?
You tried to portray the Labour party as being more to the center, when they are firmly planted in the left, and have been for a long, long, time.

You are the one being intellectually dishonest when you try to portray them as centrists.

Why is it that liberals cannot just admit to being liberals, why do they have to constantly tout how much of a centrist they are? You see this argument on this forum from many on the left (Direckshun particularly).

And, by the way, my "exceptional example" was one of the largest donors and supporters of the Labour party in all of Great Britain. One could say calling them the exception would be intellectually dishonest as well.

To sum up, you categorize labor as being center, but slightly leaning left (that is what center left implies), whereas I would catergorize the Labour Party as being left, and only occasionally coming to the center. What you said was an opinion, one that I disagreed with, and I provide a link to support my point of view. If you wish to debate whether labor is closer to the center than the left, feel free. I look forward to any facts you would like to post to support that notion.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:43 PM   #17
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Psst, the Phelps are Democrats.
Are they registered Democrats, or do they support current Democratic leaders and platforms? Let's try to avoid another silly Democrat/Republican debate which pretends that history started in 1996.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:46 PM   #18
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Are they registered Democrats, or do they support current Democratic leaders and platforms? Let's try to avoid another silly Democrat/Republican debate which pretends that history started in 1996.
Nothing for Wickedson though huh?
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:47 PM   #19
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Psst, the Phelps are Democrats.
You're kidding right.

There main push is anti homosexual. The cause the Democrats push for.

Don't be as naive as some around here on this board.
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Psst, the Phelps are Democrats.
Just like Wickedtard. They probably get off on children getting shot, too. And they're from Kansas.

Perhaps Wickedtard is a Phelps?
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Just like Wickedtard. They probably get off on children getting shot, too. And they're from Kansas.

Perhaps Wickedtard is a Phelps?
Anti Kansas?

Remember who beat your ass during the civil war.

If it was up to you black people would still be chains. You're lower than the dirt under my shoe.
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Remember who beat your ass during the civil war.

If it was up to you black people would still be chains. You're lower than the dirt under my shoe.
Another little kid probably got shot somewhere, Wickedtard. Quick, go rub one out and then find an article to post!
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Are they registered Democrats, or do they support current Democratic leaders and platforms? Let's try to avoid another silly Democrat/Republican debate which pretends that history started in 1996.
Fred is a registered D. I heard one of his clan explain he is registered (and has run for office as a D) because that's where most of the sinners are.
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You're kidding right.

There main push is anti homosexual. The cause the Democrats push for.

Don't be as naive as some around here on this board.
You’re an idiot. From the first paragraph of his Wiki page.

Fred Waldron Phelps, Sr. (born November 13, 1929) is an American pastor heading the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC), an independent Baptist church based in Topeka, Kansas. Phelps is a disbarred lawyer, founder of the Phelps Chartered law firm, and a former civil rights activist. A member of the Democratic Party, he has occasionally run for political office. In the election for United States Senator for Kansas in 1992, he received 49,416 votes (30.8%) in the Democratic primary, coming in second after Gloria O'Dell (who subsequently lost to later presidential candidate Bob Dole).

Mr. Invented the Internet shmoozing with the Fredster.



But then if you ever actually expressed knowledge of the subject your running off at the keyboard about I would be surprised.
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You tried to portray the Labour party as being more to the center, when they are firmly planted in the left, and have been for a long, long, time.

You are the one being intellectually dishonest when you try to portray them as centrists.

Why is it that liberals cannot just admit to being liberals, why do they have to constantly tout how much of a centrist they are? You see this argument on this forum from many on the left (Direckshun particularly).

And, by the way, my "exceptional example" was one of the largest donors and supporters of the Labour party in all of Great Britain. One could say calling them the exception would be intellectually dishonest as well.

To sum up, you categorize labor as being center, but slightly leaning left (that is what center left implies), whereas I would catergorize the Labour Party as being left, and only occasionally coming to the center. What you said was an opinion, one that I disagreed with, and I provide a link to support my point of view. If you wish to debate whether labor is closer to the center than the left, feel free. I look forward to any facts you would like to post to support that notion.
Please refrain from putting words in my mouth. I labeled them "left-center." I didn't say they were "center, but slightly leaning left" and that is not what 'left-center' implies. Left-center implies just that: not socialist, not libertarian, but on an imperfect imaginary scale of ideologies, left of the center.

Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, for examples, are not "leftists." They are not socialists. They are also not to the right of the center of our imaginary scale. You have an exaggerated and inaccurate view of what my term means, so I caution you to reflect on why that is. Perhaps it's because you abhor any recognition that people who have any inclination of modern liberalism can be considered to have an inclination of 'centrism.' Perhaps it confuses a convenient black/white model of the world you wish to portray. Whatever it is, it's silly and perhaps dishonest.

Again, your link showed a single Labour supporter as celebrating the death of Margret Thatcher. You used that to show that the Labour Party celebrates her death. I claim it is the exception. My link, a statement from the leader of the Labour Party: http://www.labour.org.uk/ed-miliband...garet-thatcher
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