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Old 04-09-2013, 08:10 PM  
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Chiefs clear roster spot for Geno Smith - our starting QB is gone.

The Brady Quinn era has ended:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/quinn-s...3094--nfl.html

Quinn in as Seahawks' backup QB

Brady Quinn wins ... the backup quarterback job with the Seattle Seahawks.

After the Seahawks brought in Quinn, Matt Leinart and Tyler Thigpen for tryouts on Monday, the team decided to go with Quinn, the team announced Tuesday. No contract details were announced.

The backup quarterback opening was created last week with the Seahawks dealt Matt Flynn to the Oakland Raiders. Flynn lost a battle in training camp last year with rookie Russell Wilson for Seattle's starting job.

Quinn took over as the Kansas City Chiefs' starter last year when Matt Cassel was injured. In eight games as the starter, Quinn threw two touchdown passes and eight interceptions. The former first-round pick from Notre Dame also spent time with the Cleveland Browns, starting 12 games in three years, and the Denver Broncos, where he never played in two seasons.

Leinart was thought to have a chance to land the Seattle job despite lackluster play the past few seasons while bouncing between Arizona, Houston and Oakland. He played in college at USC for current Seahawks coach Pete Carroll.

Thigpen, meanwhile, possesses running ability similar to Wilson that would have worked well on the Seahawks' read-option plays. But he had started only one NFL game the past five seasons, with Miami in 2010.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:07 PM   #46
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This is hilarious, comparing Geno Smith with RG3. Lets see, RG3 recruited by Harbaugh to play at standford, academic all american who graduated in 3 years. One of the main reasons he went to Baylor was because he was also one of the best Hurdlers in the ENTIRE WORLD and Balylor has a great track and field team. Geno Smith, to West Virginia. Why, no other school recruited him, oh wait Alabama. Didnt go because he couldnt beat out AJ Mcarron who was already there and he couldnt beat him out, also much more highly recruited.

Pleas dont compare this scrubb with a world class Athlete like RG3. Break those bad habits and let the Chiefs work the right way. Why are the Niners finally getting good? Because they drafted 1st round lineman after 1 round lineman! The entire line is practically High first round picks.
And yet they got their ass smoked by who? Oh, a team with a 1st round QB that played balls out. Although, I don't believe Flacco was a world class hurdler so I'm somewhat surprised he pulled off the win. Take your TrueFan shit and shove it up your ass. 1990 called and wants its post back.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:10 PM   #47
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And yet they got their ass smoked by who? Oh, a team with a 1st round QB that played balls out. Although, I don't believe Flacco was a world class hurdler so I'm somewhat surprised he pulled off the win. Take your TrueFan shit and shove it up your ass. 1990 called and wants its post back.
Yeah it's pretty clear they won because they had a first round QB and the Niners only had a second round QB...
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This is hilarious, comparing Geno Smith with RG3. Lets see, RG3 recruited by Harbaugh to play at standford, academic all american who graduated in 3 years. One of the main reasons he went to Baylor was because he was also one of the best Hurdlers in the ENTIRE WORLD and Balylor has a great track and field team. Geno Smith, to West Virginia. Why, no other school recruited him, oh wait Alabama. Didnt go because he couldnt beat out AJ Mcarron who was already there and he couldnt beat him out, also much more highly recruited.

Pleas dont compare this scrubb with a world class Athlete like RG3. Break those bad habits and let the Chiefs work the right way. Why are the Niners finally getting good? Because they drafted 1st round lineman after 1 round lineman! The entire line is practically High first round picks.
No one was comparing his abilities to RG3 retard. You used the WVU "gimmick" offense against Geno. I pointed out that RG3 ran the same offense in college. Making your argument super ****ing dumb.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:16 PM   #49
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Flacco was also Highly highly touted as a superstar. Started at Michigan and everyone knew he was gonna be good. Got smoked? by 3 point? Who is living in 1990's? The chiefs are finally breaking the mold and you want them to keep doing the same ol stupid shit that makes you repost and repost all this insanity. Take a sub-par player just because you have the top pick. Best Player Available!!! Geno is Not!! Its just a fact. There is not a nastier line in football than the Niners and the Chiefs could have that as well. With Albert and Jockhel. For years to come!
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Flacco was also Highly highly touted as a superstar. Started at Michigan and everyone knew he was gonna be good. Got smoked? by 3 point? Who is living in 1990's? The chiefs are finally breaking the mold and you want them to keep doing the same ol stupid shit that makes you repost and repost all this insanity. Take a sub-par player just because you have the top pick. Best Player Available!!! Geno is Not!! Its just a fact. There is not a nastier line in football than the Niners and the Chiefs could have that as well. With Albert and Jockhel. For years to come!
Joe Thomas likes this post. The Browns just need a 1st round RT and they are ****ing set!

Not only are they not only NOT breaking the mold this is the same damn blue print they've used for decades. Trade for someone else's steaming pyle of shit.
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Flacco was also Highly highly touted as a superstar. Started at Michigan and everyone knew he was gonna be good.
lulz wat?
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lulz wat?
Yeah, I'm on the fence if he is a troll or idiot at the moment. I'm leaning towards idiot.
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Joe Thomas likes this post. The Browns just need a 1st round RT and they are ****ing set!
Joe Thomas was a great pick for the browns. Same cant be said for Tim Couch, Brady Quinn, Colt McCoy, Brandon Weeden, etc.
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I compare his abilities because it doesnt matter what offense RG played in, he and Luck are once in a generation QB's. Geno Played in this gimmick and it made him look much better than he really is. If you dont think, then just watch some tape and read the scouting reports. Yes of course he will go high in this draft, this draft for QBs is terrible. He would be a 2nd rounder next year. His abilities are limited, RG3 can take a snap from under center no problem, as you saw in the regular season. As far as the Retard comment goes, its clear who that goes to. Dont think i have to speak on that further.
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Joe Thomas was a great pick for the browns. Same cant be said for Tim Couch, Brady Quinn, Colt McCoy, Brandon Weeden, etc.
And Joe has how many playoffs win for as great of a LT he is? Couch and Quinn were okay picks they just didn't pan out. That's the chance you take on being great. Sometimes you strike out. McCoy was good value in the 3rd and probably just as good as Alex. They has their head up their asses with Weeden.
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I compare his abilities because it doesnt matter what offense RG played in, he and Luck are once in a generation QB's. Geno Played in this gimmick and it made him look much better than he really is. If you dont think, then just watch some tape and read the scouting reports. Yes of course he will go high in this draft, this draft for QBs is terrible. He would be a 2nd rounder next year. His abilities are limited, RG3 can take a snap from under center no problem, as you saw in the regular season. As far as the Retard comment goes, its clear who that goes to. Dont think i have to speak on that further.
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When Geno Smith came in for QB camp, there were a couple of big questions to address in assessing his value.



For one, you start with the question of production. With Smith, the one I get asked is this: "Is this guy simply a product of a system?" I get it. Hey, those big numbers cut both ways. They might look good, but they also make scouts suspicious. Does the system create the quarterback, or is the quarterback maximizing the system? I mean, 42 touchdowns and six picks?



Here's what I see.







Maybe the system is great, but I don't know of a quarterback who has had as many decision-making opportunities as Smith had. And you know what? He made the right decisions. For instance: Every running play that was called, he had the option to hand the ball off, but he could also check out of the play and throw it. There were always options.

Every single play they could hand it off, or throw a bubble screen or a tap screen (he completed 112 screen passes in 2012) and as a product of some of those plays, you get hit in the face and you've got to be back on the ball again before you can even say, "West Virginia.'' There's a pace to the decisions. That offense would drive a lot of quarterbacks crazy. It's hard. It isn't just "easy production" -- it can simply look easy if you have a great decision-maker. I like the mental grind that he's been trained to deal with.



It's hard to find prospects such as Smith who possess that size and that speed, but it's also that ability to make quick decisions. I think it's a great accomplishment that he ran that offense like he did. I don't like to simply say because of a track record with a system, "He's got inflated production." I hate when people say that. It's bull. The same systems can produce entirely different prospects. Smith's given himself a chance to be the No. 1 pick in the draft because he can make decisions.



The second question I'm asked is: With the recent trends with read-option capability in guys like Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick and Robert Griffin III, is Smith really a threat in multiple ways? The numbers don't really point to that, after all. The guy had a total of 152 yards rushing last year. But as I said, he's not lacking speed.



I think what's most intriguing about him is that the read-option capabilities are there, even if we didn't see a lot of it. Look, I don't ever want to just have a quarterback come into the NFL and think he essentially majored in the read-option. In the current NFL, I think there's a place for it because it does regulate what the defense can do. You get to dictate matchups and create a threat if the guy has that running skill.



So if you can be a real threat to do that, like Wilson or Kaepernick can with the right combination of size and speed, and also master the protections and master the pocket like Smith is capable of, you create that double-edged combination. If that's what you want from him, I think he can be dangerous. The way I see it, if Smith gets with the right guy and can stay in the same system to develop, West Virginia coach Dana Holgorsen has proved how he can. So you can draft him having seen him adjust to a new system and take off.



Once you get those two questions out the way, you deal with the last one. The one I've been asked is whether this guy is truly worthy of a No. 1 pick.




I answer that by considering where he is not in every draft, but for this class specifically. In this class, I definitely think he's a guy you could take at No. 1, or at least in that range if it's your top need. Sure, a lot of people say he's not as good as Andrew Luck or Griffin. Well, last time I checked, those guys aren't in this draft. It's supply and demand. In this league, you need a quarterback, and if you're a general manager or a coach you can't just operate with the idea you're content to wait until you're in the perfect position to take a can't-miss prospect. In this class, the closest thing to that is Smith. And if I needed a quarterback, I'd be willing to take him high.



We know he can throw the ball. I think he certainly can get a little better at his footwork, and it's something I tried to point out in working with him. But we know and like the overall athleticism he has. In the end, I think he's going to be a heck of a player, and that also has to do with experience.



Smith has seen it all, and so as you evaluate, you can, too. You're getting to see a body of work over four years, and it's a big body of work. We saw him play in big games, and we saw him play under two different coaches. He's had an incredible amount of things happen to him. I like that he's come from Miami all the way to West Virginia and hasn't just played for the two coaches, but has also gone from the Big East to the Big 12. A lot of people don't think that's a big deal. It is. When they realigned the NFC and the Buccaneers went from the NFC Central to the NFC South, it was a bigger deal than people realized. Switching conferences and playing teams that you're not used to playing is a very big deal.



In the end, it comes down to upside. Smith is big enough, athletic enough and sharp in his decision-making. He's charismatic and passionate. In his case, and in this QB class, if the need is there, I'm not sure what else you're looking for
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Not only are they not only NOT breaking the mold this is the same damn blue print they've used for decades. Trade for someone else's steaming pyle of shit.
You cant be serious, how can you know if you have a good QB when you are rolling out swiss cheese on gameday and he cant even stay upright. Everyone thought Cassell would succeed, he was great with the Pats, Quinn was also a first round QB. None of these guys could stand in the pocket without getting there sh** blown up. Give me a great great O-line. I dont need the best QB of the weak QB draft. A team is built from the inside out, I am guessing you could ask any good QB this and he will tell you the same thing.
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You cant be serious, how can you know if you have a good QB when you are rolling out swiss cheese on gameday and he cant even stay upright. Everyone thought Cassell would succeed, he was great with the Pats, Quinn was also a first round QB. None of these guys could stand in the pocket without getting there sh** blown up. Give me a great great O-line. I dont need the best QB of the weak QB draft. A team is built from the inside out, I am guessing you could ask any good QB this and he will tell you the same thing.
How many sacks did Brandon Albert give up? The Chiefs line was more then okay. It was pointed out many times there were open receivers that Cassell just didn't see or couldn't throw the ball to with this weak ass arm.

Give me Aaron Rodgers and average O-Line anyway over Alex Smiff and blowing high picks on fatties. ****, Rodgers was winning games with the worst O-Line in football for awhile. I'm pretty sure Green Bay still knew what they had.


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whats less valuable to a football team than a right tackle? guard? why would a team take a player at 1.1 where you want an impact player who can change games. I dont see right tackles changing games.
Drafting Jake Long over Matt Ryan really panned out well for miami didnt it
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A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
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