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Old 04-09-2013, 09:56 PM  
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Gun Policy & Law Enforcement: Survey Results

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PoliceOne’s Gun Policy & Law Enforcement survey was conducted between March 4 and March 13, 2013. More than 15,000 officers completed the survey, which was promoted by PoliceOne exclusively to its 400,000 registered members, comprised of verified law enforcement professionals. Only current, former or retired law enforcement personnel were eligible to participate in the survey. The survey sample size was broadly distributed
by geography and rank in proportion to the U.S. law enforcement community at large. Respondents comprised a variety of ranks from departments of all sizes, with the majority representing departments of greater than 500 officers. Of those that took the survey, 80 percent were current law enforcement officers and 20 percent were former/retired law enforcement.

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19. Do you support the concealed carry of firearms by civilians who have not been convicted of a felony and/or not been deemed psychologically/medically incapable?
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Yes, without question and without further restrictions
91.3% 12,968
No, only law enforcement officers should carry firearms
4.1% 586

Unsure/Neutral
4.5% 646

answered question 14,200
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22. Considering the particulars of recent tragedies like Newtown and Aurora, what level of impact do you think a legally-armed citizen could have made? Choose the statement that you feel is most accurate:

Innocent casualties would likely have been avoided altogether
6.2% 865

Casualties would likely have been reduced
80.0% 11,215


There would have been no difference in outcome
4.1% 568

An active gunfight might have resulted in greater loss of innocent lives
5.5% 767

Unsure or prefer not to answer
4.3% 607

answered question 14,022
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:30 PM   #46
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I've mentioned psych evals in more than one post. I had an uncle get his guns taken away for being deemed a lunatic. My whole family sleeps a little better at night knowing this. The problem is, some states don't/won't volunteer the info to the data base.

Therein lies another problem. Just how crazy do you have to be considered to take guns away and who should be judging how crazy you are.
Did you hear about the guy in Soviet New York who had his guns confiscated because his grade school age son discussed going after another kid with a WATER PISTOL? They're definitely testing the waters to see what they can get away with.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:36 PM   #47
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Did you hear about the guy in Soviet New York who had his guns confiscated because his grade school age son discussed going after another kid with a WATER PISTOL? They're definitely testing the waters to see what they can get away with.
I skimmed over it while at work. It's ridiculous.

I guess all my family needs their guns taken away since I used to shoot my cap gun at passing cars when I was a kid...or for playing cowboys and indians...or for playing Army. Hell, I don't know how many paintballs I shot and bruised friends with. I guess I'm just evil.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:39 PM   #48
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Well, this is where I'm at (and yes, I understand the point of the second amendment, who wrote it, and what they had just accomplished): I believe there is one, and only one, reason for any government to impede the ability of its citizens to own firearms. I also believe that the government's war on smoking has given provided them with a blueprint to make it happen. As a result, **** reason and compromise. Every compromise is just one more rung down the ladder. Background checks becomes registrations - going after "assault" weapons becomes confiscating semi-automatic rifles, them semi-automatic pistols, then shotguns, then pistols, then it's all over.

No compromising, no reasoning, no nothing, not ever. Enough. If the other side wins a point, I want them to feel like they've been raped by a jackhammer when it's all said and done.

And where and how I store my weapons is my business, not yours or the government's. Rest assured I don't leave them "on the street," or have a big sign on my door that says "Guns, inquire within."
So what your saying is..." derka derka, rabble rabble! "?

Registrations!? Oh my! Next thing you know you'll need a license to drive a car, or a registration to own one! Or hell, even insurance! Idiot.

How about they just make you liable as an accessory to murder if your gun is used in a violent murder. Will that shut your dumbass up and make you use a gun safe? Pretty sure if the guns would have been in a guy who safe with a biometric lock, Sandy hook wouldn't have been a problem.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:40 PM   #49
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I've mentioned psych evals in more than one post. I had an uncle get his guns taken away for being deemed a lunatic. My whole family sleeps a little better at night knowing this. The problem is, some states don't/won't volunteer the info to the data base.

Therein lies another problem. Just how crazy do you have to be considered to take guns away and who should be judging how crazy you are.
Same as anyone and everything else I assume. If you're deemed a threat yourself or others...
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Did you hear about the guy in Soviet New York who had his guns confiscated because his grade school age son discussed going after another kid with a WATER PISTOL? They're definitely testing the waters to see what they can get away with.
Wow you're a ****ing flake.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:47 PM   #51
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So what your saying is..." derka derka, rabble rabble! "?

Registrations!? Oh my! Next thing you know you'll need a license to drive a car, or a registration to own one! Or hell, even insurance! Idiot.

How about they just make you liable as an accessory to murder if your gun is used in a violent murder. Will that shut your dumbass up and make you use a gun safe? Pretty sure if the guns would have been in a guy who safe with a biometric lock, Sandy hook wouldn't have been a problem.
Sorry, I didn't realize you're a complete ****ing imbecile. Oops. Won't make that mistake again.

So you want to store guns in a guy who safe with a lock? Are you talking about a holster, or did you have something more exotic in mind?
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Wow you're a ****ing flake.
And you're a ****ing ****.

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So this "proves" that the government is "testing the water" to see what they can get away with, and eventually infringe upon your rights?
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So this "proves" that the government is "testing the water" to see what they can get away with, and eventually infringe upon your rights?
No, not a all. Junior is obviously a clear and present danger to go all sandy hook with a ****ing water pistol and BB gun.

Will you be able to sleep tonight?
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Sorry, I didn't realize you're a complete ****ing imbecile. Oops. Won't make that mistake again.

So you want to store guns in a guy who safe with a lock? Are you talking about a holster, or did you have something more exotic in mind?
Oh noes! My phone chose a whole different set of words! Now what will jerkoff think of me!
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Oh noes! My phone chose a whole different set of words! Now what will jerkoff think of me!
That you're the Iowanatard Wickedson?
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No, not a all. Junior is obviously a clear and present danger to go all sandy hook with a ****ing water pistol and BB gun.

Will you be able to sleep tonight?
Should I care what happens to idiots? Should we let him hunt the other kid down and shoot him with a BB gun? Why do I get the sense that this isn't the whole story?
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That you're the Iowanatard Wickedson?
How do you feel about paying for people to live off of the government? Raising and feeding their kids for them? Is that ok?
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Should I care what happens to idiots? Should we let him hunt the other kid down and shoot him with a BB gun? Why do I get the sense that this isn't the whole story?
Oh no, not a BB gun! He might.... get a welt!
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Oh no, not a BB gun! He might.... get a welt!
That makes it okay then. You're right. Got kids?
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