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Old 04-10-2013, 03:43 PM  
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I'm now more sure than ever that Geno's going #1 overall.

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The Raiders are signing QB Seneca Wallace after working him out, Tyler Thigpen and perhaps others
The Raiders are signing up so many QBs that it is now virtually impossible they would take Geno Smith, even if he was available at #3 overall.

And they'd be theoretically passing on him for Seneca Wallace, Terrell (sp?) Pryor and maybe even Tyler ****ing Thigpen.

What's far more likely, is what some of us already suspect: they're not passing on him at all.

Like all of the QB-specific movement that immediately pre-dated the Geno visit in KC, I think the worst kept secret behind the closed doors of GM offices across the league is that Geno Smith is officially off the board at #1 overall.

I personally think it is down to the Eagles and the Jaguars. The Eagles want Geno as a developmental guy behind Vick, and the Jags, who are largely believed to like Geno, don't want to get jumped, a la Browns with Trent Richardson last year.

And then there's the least likely option, but one I think is still somehow alive: that the Chiefs actually think Geno fits what they're trying to do, and can be special, and that they will take Geno #1 overall if the compensation they are offered for trading down isn't sexy enough.

I may have my head up my ass, as I so often do. But I think the reasonable assumption to make from here on out that Geno Smith is known league-wide to be the first overall pick. The league almost certainly knows who the players for that pick are. And I'm willing to bet the league almost certainly assumes the Chiefs are not in the running for Geno. There has been absolutely no smoke for that particular fire to be real.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:23 AM   #151
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We're ADVOCATING trying something new. The Chiefs haven't taken a QB in the first round in 30 years. If they drafted one, would that not be a change?
They haven't passed up every draft pick and walked away, either. Would you recommend that just because it's change? Of course not.

If they think Smith is the player, they should draft him. If they don't think he's the guy, they shouldn't. It's that simple, and a bunch of people on a message board posting "GENO!!" doesn't somehow change that equation. It just makes those posters look like idiots, again, because they didn't learn the clear and obvious lesson from the Mark Sanchez draft.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:27 AM   #152
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You'll have to excuse me if I don't take QB advice from a fan of a team who fell ass over tea kettle into their Super Bowl QB.
You'll have to excuse me if I note that the team had scouted Brady and drafted him, that it kept him as a 4th QB, and that it kept him in as the starter despite having a $100 million dollar QB in front of him before injury. The argument that they got lucky is stupid. Every pick in the draft is an educated guess, and every pick except #1 overall is a product of what teams in front do with their picks.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:29 AM   #153
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It's the second longest run of elite play in the Super Bowl era, and they've been to the SB in about half of Brady's starting seasons, so I don't really worry about it being a "Geritol phase". I'm enjoying it while it lasts.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:30 AM   #154
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:35 AM   #155
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They haven't passed up every draft pick and walked away, either. Would you recommend that just because it's change? Of course not.

If they think Smith is the player, they should draft him. If they don't think he's the guy, they shouldn't. It's that simple, and a bunch of people on a message board posting "GENO!!" doesn't somehow change that equation. It just makes those posters look like idiots, again, because they didn't learn the clear and obvious lesson from the Mark Sanchez draft.
Tyson Jackson was clearly the better option. Dumbass.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:50 AM   #157
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I thought the Chiefs would go for Raji, not Jackson, but the team blowing the pick on one guy doesn't justify blowing the pick on another.
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:28 PM   #158
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I thought the Chiefs would go for Raji, not Jackson, but the team blowing the pick on one guy doesn't justify blowing the pick on another.
So, can we now agree there is no such thing as a "Patriot Way"?
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Old 04-11-2013, 01:51 PM   #159
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You'll have to excuse me if I note that the team had scouted Brady and drafted him, that it kept him as a 4th QB, and that it kept him in as the starter despite having a $100 million dollar QB in front of him before injury. The argument that they got lucky is stupid. Every pick in the draft is an educated guess, and every pick except #1 overall is a product of what teams in front do with their picks.
Ya you had a guy that would have quit if they didn't pick him. So it wasn't an easy: Well Brady is still here let's take him.
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They haven't passed up every draft pick and walked away, either. Would you recommend that just because it's change? Of course not.

If they think Smith is the player, they should draft him. If they don't think he's the guy, they shouldn't. It's that simple, and a bunch of people on a message board posting "GENO!!" doesn't somehow change that equation. It just makes those posters look like idiots, again, because they didn't learn the clear and obvious lesson from the Mark Sanchez draft.
Look at the hot garbage backing Alex Smith up. You can't win or have a future with that group of clowns. You HAVE to get a realistic backup to AS, why not take the best QB on the board?
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Old 04-11-2013, 02:12 PM   #161
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Look at the hot garbage backing Alex Smith up. You can't win or have a future with that group of clowns. You HAVE to get a realistic backup to AS, why not take the best QB on the board?
You take him if you think he's your guy. You don't take him if you don't. You don't just take the guy in order to say you took a QB. Honestly, I don't understand why that seems to be such a controversial approach around here.
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Take this fwiw - a friend works for a major agent (Lagardere) - just dropped this bomb on me.

Tavon Austin is high if not at the top of the Chiefs board. They think he's better than Harvin.

Asked if he was serious and he said yes... Still not sure I believe it, but that would be a shock to the draftniks..
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Take this fwiw - a friend works for a major agent (Lagardere) - just dropped this bomb on me.

Tavon Austin is high if not at the top of the Chiefs board. They think he's better than Harvin.

Asked if he was serious and he said yes... Still not sure I believe it, but that would be a shock to the draftniks..
That would be the best consolation prize we could ask for. HE is the kind of player and position you select with a one if no QB makes the cut on your board. WIN. DO IT.
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Take this fwiw - a friend works for a major agent (Lagardere) - just dropped this bomb on me.

Tavon Austin is high if not at the top of the Chiefs board. They think he's better than Harvin.

Asked if he was serious and he said yes... Still not sure I believe it, but that would be a shock to the draftniks..
Well he's already made one QB look amazing with his YAC and rushing yards.

He can do that with any QB in the NFL, too.
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The Raiders are signing up so many QBs that it is now virtually impossible they would take Geno Smith, even if he was available at #3 overall.

And they'd be theoretically passing on him for Seneca Wallace, Terrell (sp?) Pryor and maybe even Tyler ****ing Thigpen.

What's far more likely, is what some of us already suspect: they're not passing on him at all.

Like all of the QB-specific movement that immediately pre-dated the Geno visit in KC, I think the worst kept secret behind the closed doors of GM offices across the league is that Geno Smith is officially off the board at #1 overall.

I personally think it is down to the Eagles and the Jaguars. The Eagles want Geno as a developmental guy behind Vick, and the Jags, who are largely believed to like Geno, don't want to get jumped, a la Browns with Trent Richardson last year.

And then there's the least likely option, but one I think is still somehow alive: that the Chiefs actually think Geno fits what they're trying to do, and can be special, and that they will take Geno #1 overall if the compensation they are offered for trading down isn't sexy enough.

I may have my head up my ass, as I so often do. But I think the reasonable assumption to make from here on out that Geno Smith is known league-wide to be the first overall pick. The league almost certainly knows who the players for that pick are. And I'm willing to bet the league almost certainly assumes the Chiefs are not in the running for Geno. There has been absolutely no smoke for that particular fire to be real.
What is more likely? The Chiefs trading the #1 pick to a division rival? Or the Raiders trading up to #2 or selecting Geno with the #3, KNOWING that if we stay in the #1 spot, we won't waste the pick on Geno?
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