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Old 04-10-2013, 03:43 PM  
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I'm now more sure than ever that Geno's going #1 overall.

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The Raiders are signing QB Seneca Wallace after working him out, Tyler Thigpen and perhaps others
The Raiders are signing up so many QBs that it is now virtually impossible they would take Geno Smith, even if he was available at #3 overall.

And they'd be theoretically passing on him for Seneca Wallace, Terrell (sp?) Pryor and maybe even Tyler ****ing Thigpen.

What's far more likely, is what some of us already suspect: they're not passing on him at all.

Like all of the QB-specific movement that immediately pre-dated the Geno visit in KC, I think the worst kept secret behind the closed doors of GM offices across the league is that Geno Smith is officially off the board at #1 overall.

I personally think it is down to the Eagles and the Jaguars. The Eagles want Geno as a developmental guy behind Vick, and the Jags, who are largely believed to like Geno, don't want to get jumped, a la Browns with Trent Richardson last year.

And then there's the least likely option, but one I think is still somehow alive: that the Chiefs actually think Geno fits what they're trying to do, and can be special, and that they will take Geno #1 overall if the compensation they are offered for trading down isn't sexy enough.

I may have my head up my ass, as I so often do. But I think the reasonable assumption to make from here on out that Geno Smith is known league-wide to be the first overall pick. The league almost certainly knows who the players for that pick are. And I'm willing to bet the league almost certainly assumes the Chiefs are not in the running for Geno. There has been absolutely no smoke for that particular fire to be real.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:31 PM   #301
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**** no. Niether one of those guys are generational talents. You DONT take non generational talent OUTSIDE of the QB or Reciever positions when you are in the top mother****ing 10. It IS that goddamned simple. DO THE MATH.
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Unfortunately the problem with your theory is that there is Generational talent in the pool, there really isn't, outside of the offensive line pool.

QB is at a record low. Receiver might be up there, and I've heard rumors that Tavon might have an outside shot at being a selection as well, but nothing from my source on it. RB is at a record low. TE is alright. Defensively, aside from maybe 1 DE/OLB and 2 CB's is a loss. DT is pretty healthy though.


Unless of course you're throwing around the phrase "Generational talent" loosely to make a point so you can continue to argue, and not that you actually have a better player in mind.
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You're a ****ing idiot.

Are you familiar with the question, "If all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you do it as well?"

If I'm a ****ing idiot, what would that make you ? Protoplasm?

Yes, I've heard of the phrase, now quit avoiding my question and answer it, instead of deflecting.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:32 PM   #302
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wut
I didn't stutter at all.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:40 PM   #303
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I didn't stutter at all.
Re-reading it, I suppose it's a fair argument.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:46 PM   #304
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Re-reading it, I suppose it's a fair argument.
Not really. If he's saying Stanzi had a better college career than Geno then that's an opinion that is disproven through stats alone. As far as "better" goes, that's all a matter of ... well no, it's just not accurate in the slightest.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:48 PM   #305
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Not really. If he's saying Stanzi had a better college career than Geno then that's an opinion that is disproven through stats alone. As far as "better" goes, that's all a matter of ... well no, it's just not accurate in the slightest.
You think so?


Alright, here we go. Lets have a little game, shall we?


Would you agree that the majority of CP wants a QB who can win big games? Who can win a super bowl?
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:54 PM   #306
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If its a weak class, and you are in the top ten, the same rule applies. And we dont have three QB's. We have one starter, and two bags of shit in the hand. If your choices are Grahm Harrell or Tyson Jackson, you take Harrell. Are you somewhat seeing the point now? If its 2009, and your choices are T-Jack and Crabtree( without hindsight, and you've already acquired your QBOTF in Cassel(rofl), WHO DO YOU TAKE????
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:54 PM   #307
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Games are for children looking for attention. I answered the question with a fact, Geno had a better college career than Ricky Stanzi. Stats don't lie, in fact they are quite truthful when you think of how real they are.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:54 PM   #308
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:55 PM   #309
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Not really. If he's saying Stanzi had a better college career than Geno then that's an opinion that is disproven through stats alone. As far as "better" goes, that's all a matter of ... well no, it's just not accurate in the slightest.
You can make the argument Stanzi had a better career via record and record in bowl games.


I don't think Exoter is trying to say Stanzi's a better prospect (feel free to clarify).
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:58 PM   #310
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You can make the argument Stanzi had a better career via record and record in bowl games.


I don't think Exoter is trying to say Stanzi's a better prospect (feel free to clarify).
Geno won a "better" bowl game, though. And in stunning fashion.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:59 PM   #311
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Stats mean dic. It's all about projecting the guy at the next level. There isn't a player in this draft that projects to be a star immediately
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You can make the argument Stanzi had a better career via record and record in bowl games.


I don't think Exoter is trying to say Stanzi's a better prospect (feel free to clarify).
All that I'm saying is that teams win games, the QB sometimes leads them back in epic fashion and sometimes his defense gets him in holes too big to climb out of. West Virginia's defense was one of the worst in college football history, when Iowa was always known for having a good defense. Stanzi did well enough, he was Iowa's Alex Smith, but at the end of the day he was no Geno Smith.
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Stats mean dic. It's all about projecting the guy at the next level. There isn't a player in this draft that projects to be a star immediately
Exactly. And with two bags of shit in the hand at QB, and with the Chiefs holding the top pick, WHO DO YOU TAKE????
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