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'Stupid and Racist’: Video captures professor ranting against Republican Party


By Oliver Darcy and Josiah Ryan, on Apr 10, 2013

A professor at the University of Southern California (USC) appears to have used a fall semester 2012 political science class to deliver sustained and angered attacks on Republicans, who he characterized as old, white, racist, and “losers.”

In a 15 min. video secretly captured by USC student Tyler Talgo, political science Professor Darry Sragow also appears to endorse the illegal suppression of Republican votes.


“California Republicans I just showed you are 30 percent registration in this state because they are really stupid and racist,” he said.” [T]he republican party in California as I say all the time on the record in print on the radio and on tv is the last vestige of angry old white people.”

“Old white guys are stubborn sons of bitches,” he added.




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Old 04-16-2013, 10:39 AM   #61
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Yeah, it would have been better if he said that the California GOP is perceived as racist by a large enough voters in California that it seriously undermines their chances of winning elections and that the California GOP seems not to be concerned about this major but fixable problem. Summarizing that by saying that the California GOP is "stupid and racist" is just a woeful affront to truth and it might well be a real and present danger to truth's two buddies, apple pie and Chevrolet, for anybody on Earth to explain anything except in very longwinded, politically neutral and excruciatingly nuanced detail. I can see why so many are so upset by this professor's actions.
The guy is a raving lunatic. I'm not sure why you have a hard time seeing that or feel the need to defend him.

Serious question. Do you know him personally? IIRC, you've worked in or around California academia.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:49 AM   #62
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Or, he could just call it like it is and say that California has a horrible poverty situation and that lends itself to supporting Democrats to "solve" the problem. When Cali's got such a welfare crisis it only makes sense they'll vote for those to continue it. What difference does it make if the GOP is racist or not?
I think it make a pretty big difference, actually. Here, for example, is a quote from an opinion piece that was written by John Anthony Carlos for "Fox News Latino":
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The best keep secret in American politics: traditional California-Latinos (Mexicans specifically) are conservative. From traditional family values to closely held religious beliefs; from a rugged work ethic to a sense of personal responsibility; from a tradition of service in the armed forces to a belief that America is truly an exceptional nation, the characteristics embodied by California-Hispanics evince a natural alignment with a conservative party.
So why then do they vote 2:1 for Democrats? (The first one to raise their hand gets an Identify-the-Obvious badge) Answer: Immigration – more precisely, the idiotic manner in which the California Republican Party approaches the issue.
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/pol...save-republic/
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:52 AM   #63
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I think it make a pretty big difference, actually. Here, for example, is a quote from an opinion piece that was written by John Anthony Carlos for "Fox News Latino":


http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/pol...save-republic/
I have another reason. All those social values they adhere to are conservative because they're largely Catholic and pro-family. On the other hand, they embrace the social-justice doctrines of the same church where politically they lean to the left on economic, tax and fiscal issues. Of course, this is different for Cuban-Americans who lean to the right on the economic, tax and fiscal issues.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:59 AM   #64
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The guy is a raving lunatic. I'm not sure why you have a hard time seeing that or feel the need to defend him.

Serious question. Do you know him personally? IIRC, you've worked in or around California academia.

No, I don't know him. I'm on the faculty at UC Davis's medical school and my lectures are about statistics and study design, not politics.

I had several political science courses in college, including one by a very famous Straussian, Joseph Cropsey, at the University of Chicago. (Leo Strauss is a political philosopher that is very important to the neo-cons.) I think that a lot of those poli sci profs tend to say things that a bit out there. From what I've seen of this video, which was obviously edited to put the professor in the worst possible light, he's handicapping the California GOP's chances of winning elections and he's making claims that can be challenged and verified. If he says that old white men are the most stubborn group of voters, he should be expected to back that up. That's a claim that can be backed up. The fact that it was claimed and that it has to do with race doesn't, per se, make it unacceptable discourse for a course on politics.

I was blessed to have a family that argued a lot and to be around people that liked to argue. I don't understand the viewpoint that thinks that having professors spouting opinions that can be challenged by students is somehow a threat to America. It envisions weakminded people that have to have their mental diapers changed for them. I don't know of many such folks being around, really.
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:04 AM   #65
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No, I don't know him. I'm on the faculty at UC Davis's medical school and my lectures are about statistics and study design, not politcs.

I had several political science courses in college, including one by a very famous Straussian, Joseph Cropsey, at the University of Chicago. (Leo Strauss is a political philosopher that is very important to the neo-cons.) I think that a lot of those poli sci profs tend to say things that a bit out there. From what I've seen of this video, which was obviously edited to put the professor in the worst possible light, he's handicapping the California GOP's chances of winning elections and he's making claims that can be challenged and verified. If he says that old white men are the most stubborn group of voters, he should be expected to back that up. That's a claim that can be backed up. The fact that it was claimed and that it has to do with race doesn't, per se, make it unacceptable discourse for a course on politics.

I was blessed to have a family that argued a lot and to be around people that liked to argue. I don't understand the viewpoint that thinks that having professors spouting opinions that can be challenged by students is somehow a threat to America. It envisions weakminded people that have to have their mental diapers changed for them. I don't know of such folks being in classrooms.
I guess it depends on whether or not the professor makes it clear that his opinions can be thoughtfully challenged without fear of reprisal. The kid that taped this lecture claims that that wasn't the case here. FWIW, I agree that this isn't about race.
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I have another reason. All those social values they adhere to are conservative because they're largely Catholic and pro-family. On the other hand, they embrace the social-justice doctrines of the same church where politically they lean to the left on economic, tax and fiscal issues. Of course, this is different for Cuban-Americans who lean to the right on the economic, tax and fiscal issues.

I'm an adult convert to Catholicism and embrace the social-justice doctrines of the Church and just war principles, while also being very open to conservative viewpoints on life issues and taxation. Anyway, by my own observations, the California GOP does not too so badly in this state because of any in-built structural problems. They do badly because they have very little political savvy and they pursue voter suppression and anti-immigrant tactics and policies because they wrongly think that helps them win. It doesn't. It helps them get curbstomped. If you get a bunch of stubborn old people together, they can convince themselves that they have the right policies, but that's not how you win elections. You have to have a broader base.
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I guess it depends on whether or not the professor makes it clear that his opinions can be thoughtfully challenged without fear of reprisal. The kid that taped this lecture claims that that wasn't the case here. FWIW, I agree that this isn't about race.
Exactly. The fear of reprisal issue is the major one from an academic freedom standpoint. I'd have to see what the kid's basis for claiming fear were. From the taped lecture itself, there are times when a students disagrees with the professor's viewpoint (e.g. about whether old white people will pass school bonds for latino and african-american students) and the reaction of the professor is one of candid disagreement, but it doesn't have the smell of reprisal in it.
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Exactly. The fear of reprisal issue is the major one from an academic freedom standpoint. I'd have to see what the kid's basis for claiming fear were. From the taped lecture itself, there are times when a students disagrees with the professor's viewpoint (e.g. about whether old white people will pass school bonds for latino and african-american students) and the reaction of the professor is one of candid disagreement, but it doesn't have the smell of reprisal in it.
That's fair. I'm basing what I said off of an interview the kid did on Fox News. Maybe his fear was baseless. Maybe he's just trying to make the prof look bad. It's hard to tell.
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I'm an adult convert to Catholicism and embrace the social-justice doctrines of the Church and just war principles, while also being very open to conservative viewpoints on life issues and taxation. Anyway, by my own observations, the California GOP does not too so badly in this state because of any in-built structural problems. They do badly because they have very little political savvy and they pursue voter suppression and anti-immigrant tactics and policies because they wrongly think that helps them win. It doesn't. It helps them get curbstomped. If you get a bunch of stubborn old people together, they can convince themselves that they have the right policies, but that's not how you win elections. You have to have a broader base.
Okay,I can see that. Just wanted to point out that there is a religious-left. There are also conservatives that support just war principles that oppose the NeoCon's wars.
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That's fair. I'm basing what I said off of an interview the kid did on Fox News. Maybe his fear was baseless. Maybe he's just trying to make the prof look bad. It's hard to tell.
One thing you can do to see whether or not you trust the blogger's characterization is to watch the segment of the tape that is referenced in the article regarding the professor's characterization of Ann Romney. The article describes it as a personal attack. Watch the tape from about the 5:00 minute mark for about a minute and decide for yourself whether what the professor said was a personal attack and/or a valid observation about Mrs. Romney being a fine lady but not one with whom women swing voters can readily identify.
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I think it make a pretty big difference, actually. Here, for example, is a quote from an opinion piece that was written by John Anthony Carlos for "Fox News Latino":


http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/pol...save-republic/

Laughing so hard my sides are splitting. Hispanics aren't "social conservatives" in the least, and they are fully supportive of Dems economically. There's no position the GOP can take to attract them. None. They don't even care about immigration when they vote. Their values = the Democrats values. They are not remotely conservative.
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Okay,I can see that. Just wanted to point out that there is a religious-left. There are also conservatives that support just war principles that oppose the NeoCon's wars.
I'm staking out some really weird ground on the political right and the Christian left. I might build later. We'll see.
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Laughing so hard my sides are splitting. Hispanics aren't "social conservatives" in the least, and they are fully supportive of Dems economically. There's no position the GOP can take to attract them. None. They don't even care about immigration when they vote. Their values = the Democrats values. They are not remotely conservative.
I'm not sure about that. My ultraconservative Latina wife would probably tell you to pull your cabeza out of your culo –– if she used such language.

But she definitely doesn't.
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I'm not sure about that. My ultraconservative Latina wife would probably tell you to pull your cabeza out of your culo –– if she used such language.

But she definitely doesn't.

Go ahead and prove me wrong then. Cite statistics, studies, polls, etc that show Hispanics are conservative. I'll wait patiently.
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I'm staking out some really weird ground on the political right and the Christian left. I might build later. We'll see.
Yeah, I know what you mean! On average, I'm in the middle of the road politically, but only because some of my extremist religious and political tendencies cancel each other out. It would be fun to have a beer with you in case you're even in the Sacramento area.
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