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Old 04-12-2013, 07:26 AM  
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The Los Angeles Dodgers won the game Thursday night against the San Diego Padres, but their pennant hopes certainly took a hit.

Dodgers starter Zack Greinke fractured his left collarbone in a bench-clearing brawl during the Dodgers' 3-2 victory over the Padres at Petco Park, prompting enraged Dodgers center fielder Matt Kemp to confront Padres left fielder Carlos Quentin in the clubhouse tunnel after the game.

Padres starter Clayton Richard and security guards intervened before another fight ensued.

The brawl started when Quentin was hit in the shoulder by Greinke's pitch in the sixth inning. He took several steps towards the mound with his bat, dropped it, and charged Greinke. It was the second time in four years that Greinke hit Quentin, but Quentin was intercepted by Kansas City Royals catcher Miguel Olivo and home-plate umpire Bill Hohn back on April 9, 2009, when Greinke pitched for the Royals and Quentin played for the Chicago White Sox.

This time, no one held anyone back, with Greinke, Kemp and Jerry Hairston ejected from the Dodgers, along with Quentin.

The biggest losers, of course, were the Dodgers, with Greinke sidelined for an indefinite period. He's scheduled to see Los Angles physician Neal ElAttrache on Friday. Greinke signed a six-year, $147 million free-agent contract during the winter.

"My teammate now has a broken f------ collarbone,'' Hairston told reporters. "Excuse my language, but that's unbelievable.''

Said Quentin: "It's unfortunate. It could have been avoided. You can ask Zack about that.

"For me, I've been hit by many pitches in my career. I think you guys know that. I can tell you I've never responded in that fashion, so you guys can do your homework on that. For me, the situation is done. That's it.''

Quentin was most infuriated, he told reporters, by what Greinke told him after he was hit.

"That was the final straw,'' he said.

Kemp, enraged by the incident, met face to face with Quentin in the hallway after the game at Petco Park. He followed Quentin into the parking lot and saying: "We'll see, b----,'' according to the Los Angeles Times.

"That's terrible for him to charge the mound like that,'' Kemp told reporters. "I think Carlos Quentin went to Stanford. I heard there's some smart people at Stanford. That wasn't too smart.''

Dodgers manager Don Mattingly said that Quentin shouldn't be permitted to play another game until Greinke can pitch.

"We're in a 2-1 game and on a 3-2 pitch to a guy that I see on the [score]board set a record for the Padres by getting hit, a guy who basically dives into the plate,'' Mattingly said, according to the MLB.com report. "In a 2-1 game, we're trying to hit him, 3-2?

"It's just stupid is what it is. He should not play a game until Greinke can pitch. If he plays before Greinke pitches, something is wrong.''

Said Greinke: "The only thing I'm going to say about the whole thing that happened there is I've never hit him on purpose. I never thought of hitting him on purpose.''

Quentin has long been a magnet for pitches. In 2004, he set a minor league record by getting plunked 43 times, and he led the major leagues the past two seasons, getting hit 23 times in 2011 and 17 times last year, even though he played just 86 games.

Greinke told reporters he thought Quentin's umbrage in reacting to getting hit by pitches was "a ploy" to intimidate pitchers.

"I figured he was trying to intimidate pitchers so they wouldn't throw inside,' he said.

The Dodgers and Padres play again Monday, this time, in Los Angeles at Dodger Stadium on Jackie Robinson Day.



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Old 04-12-2013, 09:13 AM   #46
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I don't have a problem with anyone crowding the plate or pitching inside to move them off the plate.

It's all part of the game.

So is charging the mound when the pitcher says something after hitting a batter. I guess everyone here just hates Quentin and loves Greinke.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:17 AM   #47
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I don't have a problem with anyone crowding the plate or pitching inside to move them off the plate.

It's all part of the game.

So is charging the mound when the pitcher says something after hitting a batter. I guess everyone here just hates Quentin and loves Greinke.
Crowding the plate is part of baseball. Flying into a (roid) rage every time you get hit and acting like a bitch is bush league.

Turning into any inside pitch and making no effort to get out of the way is bush league.

Quentin gets no sympathy here because he's a cheap, bush league player. We saw this from him the entire time he was with the White Sox. It was sad when they traded him, because Quentin is such an excellent player example of the White Sox fanbase.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:19 AM   #48
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Too bad Zach didn't hit him right in the ol' eye socket.
No shit...if this douche insists on crowding the plate so consistently, and then being a bitch when he gets hit...someone ought to aim it at his fuggin' head, again and again until they knock that azzhole outta baseball. Part of the game, my ass. This dude's rep is long established and speaks for itself.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:20 AM   #49
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I don't have a problem with anyone crowding the plate or pitching inside to move them off the plate.

It's all part of the game.

So is charging the mound when the pitcher says something after hitting a batter. I guess everyone here just hates Quentin and loves Greinke.
No. You're just a San Diego homer. I'd say more Royals fans here dislike Grienke than like him.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:31 AM   #50
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So is charging the mound when the pitcher says something after hitting a batter. I guess everyone here just hates Quentin and loves Greinke.
I forgot I was watching Hockey for a second.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:39 AM   #51
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I don't have a problem with anyone crowding the plate or pitching inside to move them off the plate.

It's all part of the game.

So is charging the mound when the pitcher says something after hitting a batter. I guess everyone here just hates Quentin and loves Greinke.
AMEN BUCK !!

Also Buck you have inadvertently uncovered a generational gap on this board with your post exposing the difference in 'old school tradition of playing the game to win and defend' as opposed to 'politically correct pussy ball where everyone is safe and wins'

If Greinke is going to be a so called 'bad ass', hit a batter, pop off and then throw his glove down he better learn how to fight. What a sorry excuse. The old man Nolan Ryan showed how it's done whipping up on the young punk ass Ventura.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:39 AM   #52
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I remember the chart before grienke threw at Perzinski. He threw 91 90 90 91 then reved it up to 95 to drill AJ. Grienke always had beef with the White Sox in the day.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:47 AM   #53
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If Greinke truly wants to play hardball either throw at his head or knees. Quintin wouldn't get away with this crap against a guy like Bob Gibson for sure. One of the most feared pitchers in baseball for many reasons.

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Yeah I guess not but he didn't lean into it like people are saying.
There's a reason why Quentin has lead the league in HBP in the last two years. Of course, that's not something to be proud of when Quentin is sporting Darth Vader like armor every time he steps up to the plate.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:55 AM   #55
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:59 AM   #57
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Both players are douchebags.

If you're gonna crowd the plate, you're gonna get hit.
Greinke should have kept his mouth shut.

At least in the NL, the pitcher bats, so if he hits guys, he has to come up to bat. Not like when Clemens and Martinez were hitting guys on purpose in the American League.

Fights are part of baseball. If Greinke would have thrown a punch instead of backed up, he might not have broken his collar bone. If you're going to fight, then fight.

I'm sure the Dodgers won't miss the $50 million they're paying him....
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:04 AM   #58
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Trying to give a shit about this. Unsuccessfully.

Grienke has always struck me as being a serious douche, though.
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Both players are douchebags.

If you're gonna crowd the plate, you're gonna get hit.
Greinke should have kept his mouth shut.

At least in the NL, the pitcher bats, so if he hits guys, he has to come up to bat. Not like when Clemens and Martinez were hitting guys on purpose in the American League.

Fights are part of baseball. If Greinke would have thrown a punch instead of backed up, he might not have broken his collar bone. If you're going to fight, then fight.

I'm sure the Dodgers won't miss the $50 million they're paying him....
Hey, at least Greinke met him in the open (rather than adopting a Jeff Weaverian like backpedal.)
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Both players are douchebags.

If you're gonna crowd the plate, you're gonna get hit.
Greinke should have kept his mouth shut.

At least in the NL, the pitcher bats, so if he hits guys, he has to come up to bat. Not like when Clemens and Martinez were hitting guys on purpose in the American League.

Fights are part of baseball. If Greinke would have thrown a punch instead of backed up, he might not have broken his collar bone. If you're going to fight, then fight.

I'm sure the Dodgers won't miss the $50 million they're paying him....
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