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Old 04-12-2013, 07:26 AM  
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Greinke Brawls..breaks collarbone

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...pitch/2076525/




The Los Angeles Dodgers won the game Thursday night against the San Diego Padres, but their pennant hopes certainly took a hit.

Dodgers starter Zack Greinke fractured his left collarbone in a bench-clearing brawl during the Dodgers' 3-2 victory over the Padres at Petco Park, prompting enraged Dodgers center fielder Matt Kemp to confront Padres left fielder Carlos Quentin in the clubhouse tunnel after the game.

Padres starter Clayton Richard and security guards intervened before another fight ensued.

The brawl started when Quentin was hit in the shoulder by Greinke's pitch in the sixth inning. He took several steps towards the mound with his bat, dropped it, and charged Greinke. It was the second time in four years that Greinke hit Quentin, but Quentin was intercepted by Kansas City Royals catcher Miguel Olivo and home-plate umpire Bill Hohn back on April 9, 2009, when Greinke pitched for the Royals and Quentin played for the Chicago White Sox.

This time, no one held anyone back, with Greinke, Kemp and Jerry Hairston ejected from the Dodgers, along with Quentin.

The biggest losers, of course, were the Dodgers, with Greinke sidelined for an indefinite period. He's scheduled to see Los Angles physician Neal ElAttrache on Friday. Greinke signed a six-year, $147 million free-agent contract during the winter.

"My teammate now has a broken f------ collarbone,'' Hairston told reporters. "Excuse my language, but that's unbelievable.''

Said Quentin: "It's unfortunate. It could have been avoided. You can ask Zack about that.

"For me, I've been hit by many pitches in my career. I think you guys know that. I can tell you I've never responded in that fashion, so you guys can do your homework on that. For me, the situation is done. That's it.''

Quentin was most infuriated, he told reporters, by what Greinke told him after he was hit.

"That was the final straw,'' he said.

Kemp, enraged by the incident, met face to face with Quentin in the hallway after the game at Petco Park. He followed Quentin into the parking lot and saying: "We'll see, b----,'' according to the Los Angeles Times.

"That's terrible for him to charge the mound like that,'' Kemp told reporters. "I think Carlos Quentin went to Stanford. I heard there's some smart people at Stanford. That wasn't too smart.''

Dodgers manager Don Mattingly said that Quentin shouldn't be permitted to play another game until Greinke can pitch.

"We're in a 2-1 game and on a 3-2 pitch to a guy that I see on the [score]board set a record for the Padres by getting hit, a guy who basically dives into the plate,'' Mattingly said, according to the MLB.com report. "In a 2-1 game, we're trying to hit him, 3-2?

"It's just stupid is what it is. He should not play a game until Greinke can pitch. If he plays before Greinke pitches, something is wrong.''

Said Greinke: "The only thing I'm going to say about the whole thing that happened there is I've never hit him on purpose. I never thought of hitting him on purpose.''

Quentin has long been a magnet for pitches. In 2004, he set a minor league record by getting plunked 43 times, and he led the major leagues the past two seasons, getting hit 23 times in 2011 and 17 times last year, even though he played just 86 games.

Greinke told reporters he thought Quentin's umbrage in reacting to getting hit by pitches was "a ploy" to intimidate pitchers.

"I figured he was trying to intimidate pitchers so they wouldn't throw inside,' he said.

The Dodgers and Padres play again Monday, this time, in Los Angeles at Dodger Stadium on Jackie Robinson Day.



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Old 04-12-2013, 10:07 AM   #61
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No way I'm defending Greinke but once a White Sox always a White Sox. Quentin is a whiney bitch who will continue to get drilled as he continues to crowd the plate. Hopefully he'll get drilled in the head soon.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:14 AM   #62
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:22 AM   #63
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If Quentin is going to stand on top the of the plate, he should expect to get hit. And he does quite a bit too.

Grienke did nothing wrong. I would still take him on the Royals in a heartbeat.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:24 AM   #64
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If Quentin is going to stand on top the of the plate, he should expect to get hit. And he does quite a bit too.

Grienke did nothing wrong. I would still take him on the Royals in a heartbeat.
Those guys used to bully the shit out of the Royals. Nice to see Grienke take a stand.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:35 AM   #66
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Immediately after the pitch, Zach gives that look like "Ah, shit!", then it looks to me like Quentin walks a little in front of the plate, then decides he's got enough roids in him to be pissed, and charges.

I don't think he was trying to hit him. Zach is one of those pitches with the kind of pinpoint control that if he wanted to hit you or send a message, he'd plant a fastball in your earhole or your kidneys, not a deflection off your batting armor on your arm. And that's not even considering the situation - you just don't hit a guy with a full count in a one run game.

Long story short - Quentin is a bitch, but Zach should have kept his mouth shut when Quentin stepped in front of the plate.
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This vid has their exchange in '09. Again, after last night's game Greinke said he's never thrown at Quentin before which is total BS. Hey, go ahead and throw at him, but don't plead innocent especially after talking smack from the mound.
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Sucks he broke his collarbone, and I'm expecting a 15-20 game suspension for Quentin, but Quentin would have been the bitch had he not confronted Greinke after he ran his mouth off.
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I don't really follow baseball other than i what i hear on the radio on my way to work. San Diego Broadcasters keep saying that he wasn't crowding the plate.

http://youtu.be/kTuxVQ5TPoE

So my question is, was he crowding the plate, and if so, what's considered "crowding the plate"?
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I don't care what Greinke may or may not have said to him...you don't charge the mound in a 1 run game on a full count like that...it was the most ridiculous thing I've seen in a while.
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This vid has their exchange in '09. Again, after last night's game Greinke said he's never thrown at Quentin before which is total BS. Hey, go ahead and throw at him, but don't plead innocent especially after talking smack from the mound.
You must not understand baseball if you think that was intentional. Even Quentin knows it wasn't intentional...he charged because, according to him, Greinke said something to him.
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This vid has their exchange in '09. Again, after last night's game Greinke said he's never thrown at Quentin before which is total BS. Hey, go ahead and throw at him, but don't plead innocent especially after talking smack from the mound.
Notice the difference in the catchers actions. Olivo steps in and sends Quentin on his way to first. AJ Ellis just stands there like an oaf and lets Quentin charge unimpeded.
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I don't really follow baseball other than i what i hear on the radio on my way to work. San Diego Broadcasters keep saying that he wasn't crowding the plate.

http://youtu.be/kTuxVQ5TPoE

So my question is, was he crowding the plate, and if so, what's considered "crowding the plate"?
Carlos Quentin lead the league in getting hit by pitches for the last 2 years. He has been towards the top the 3 years before that. That is with his many stints on the DL too.
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