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Old 04-12-2013, 06:17 PM   #61
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How in the **** did this thread actually beget real sports discussion?
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:19 PM   #62
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How in the **** did this thread actually beget real sports discussion?
Some of us just decoded the retard language and tried to treat it like any other thread I guess.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:20 PM   #63
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Disagree.

Golf is a sport no matter what. Anyone who is good at golf is an athlete, plain and simple.

Is basketball not a sport when a bunch of fat dipshits play a pickup game and can't dribble the ball, shoot with two hands, and have no concept of the game?

The only "sport" that I'm willing to debate about whether or not it is a sport is bowling. I'm a 185 bowler...and I learned how to do that in 1 week. My friend was like, "dude, you have to throw a hook or you'll always suck." So I learned how to throw a hook without a thumb...and then once I was comfortable to use my thumb I was suddenly a decent enough bowler.

But yeah...if you can break a 90 playing golf honestly (no cheating), and consistently...you're an athlete, and that takes talent, and it's a sport.

but you could play the whole "If you're like the thousands of pussies riding carts and smoking cigars while shooting the shit and drinking beer during mens' leagues" for each and every sport there is
Here's the difference:

Walking while playing takes stamina. As you lose steam walking a course over the course of the day it affects your swing, making it harder for you to stay down through shots, fire your body through the ball, and maintain a consistent coil in your backswing.

Even though people may **** it up and play terribly, the aerobic part of basketball is also taxing and necessary to actually play the game.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:22 PM   #64
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Walking golf actually does take a great deal of stamina. Being outside in 90+ degrees for 4.5+ hours in a tournament is not for the meek. Then do that for 4 days straight. Conversely, playing in bad weather is just as tough. You have to shut out the heat/cold, sweat/rain, annoying galleries at times, slow play of other golfers, etc. To maintain focus for that long is one of the toughest things I've ever had to do. I've played in many a tournament and when I've been in my best physical form I've played the best. But any golfer will tell you that its just as mental.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:23 PM   #65
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Here's the difference:

Walking while playing takes stamina. As you lose steam walking a course over the course of the day it affects your swing, making it harder for you to stay down through shots, fire your body through the ball, and maintain a consistent coil in your backswing.

Even though people may **** it up and play terribly, the aerobic part of basketball is also taxing and necessary to actually play the game.
I'm your typical white boy basketball player. I'm super fast (well...used to be) but my stamina is shit and I can't jump and am not a great ball handler. But god damn I can shoot. We played a 5 on 5 full court game a couple years ago, and in warmups my teammates were like "god damn that white boy can shoot" but then after a couple sprints up and down the court my legs were gone and I couldn't shoot worth a shit. Anyway, sorry for the story. Carry on.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:25 PM   #66
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as someone who has an uncle that is a golf pro and a father who is a 3 handicap...

I'm absolutely ****ing baffled by how they are so damn good. I have tried to learn, and have excelled at times on the range...I feel like my swing is perfect.

But I just get ****ing worse with age. I just find golf to infuriating to play now. I have always excelled at sports so when I don't excel at something I get infuriated...but 3 years ago I started hitting my driver a consistent 250 and I hit it straight.

I played one round of golf with my dad that summer and he tweaked something, and his friend tweaked something...and now I'm all ****ed in the head...and for the first time in my life I slice the shit out of the ball and it's insane. It's unfixable. I used to pull the ball...now I slice it. I don't get it.

I am pretty weird though. I played baseball my whole life and couldn't bat right handed...I hit lefty, I played hockey lefty...did everything else righty. Threw, everything. And I was a good hitter...

I golf right handed. My dad taught me as a kid that golfing lefty was ****ing retarded and made me golf right handed and it feels 100% natural to me. There have been years where I was a 90-100 golfer...

but last year...****, I was horrible. My drives were CONSISTENTLY out of bounds to where I had to stop using my driver. There was nothing I could do to fix it on the range, either. It was like a true tin cup experience for me and it made me want to never play golf again. And I probably won't.

Unfortuately with my recent knee injury that doesn't want to get better I can no longer play flag football or softball (competitively) either...

so I'm down to ****ing bowling.

First of all, everyone has a "this is how you fix a slice" thought, but 90% of golfers slice, so take all with a grain of salt, this one included.

The difference between a pull and a slice is the face angle of the club at impact. In both cases the swing path (the arc the club travels0 is the same, but with a cut the face is open and with a pull its closed.

That said:

It's happening for two reasons:

1) You're throwing your right shoulder at the ball, which ****s up your swing plane.

2) Your clubface is open.

Focus on two things:

1) Strengthen your grip. The V formed by your thumb and forefinger should point at your right shoulder as you address the ball

2) Feel like you are holding your right shoulder back as you begin the downswing. If you can do this without losing your spine angle you'll put the club in the slot and hit it from the inside. If you have the same grip that used to cause a pull, it will now be a draw.
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Here's the difference:

Walking while playing takes stamina. As you lose steam walking a course over the course of the day it affects your swing, making it harder for you to stay down through shots, fire your body through the ball, and maintain a consistent coil in your backswing.

Even though people may **** it up and play terribly, the aerobic part of basketball is also taxing and necessary to actually play the game.
I realize I'm in better shape than most people in this lazy world...

but I've walked 36 holes in summer heat and I don't feel like it has ever effected me a bit...

I just don't think it's fair to say people who ride a cart aren't playing a sport because they are riding a cart...that doesn't make sense to me. I'm no better in a cart than I am when I'm walking. In fact, I'm probably better when I walk but my fat lazy friends don't ever want to walk.

If your point is that fat lazy people aren't athletes than for the most part I'll agree with you...but you see them play softball, basketball and golf so I don't think anyone tries to argue that the first two aren't sports because of that.

My dad and uncle are avid golfers and both played hockey at MSU...once my dad's hockey career was over he shifted to golf and is an amazing golfer...I find it hard to believe someone with no athletic ability to could pick up a golf club and, with practice, become a good golfer...

you have to have athletic ability to be able to swing a golf club and make that piece of shit ball do what you're trying to do
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First of all, everyone has a "this is how you fix a slice" thought, but 90% of golfers slice, so take all with a grain of salt, this one included.

The difference between a pull and a slice is the face angle of the club at impact. In both cases the swing path (the arc the club travels is the same), but with a cut the face is open and with a pull its closed.

That said:

It's happening for two reasons:

1) You're throwing your right shoulder at the ball, which ****s up your swing plane.

2) Your clubface is open.

Focus on two things:

1) Strengthen your grip. The V formed by your thumb and forefinger should point at your right shoulder as you address the ball

2) Feel like you are holding your right shoulder back as you begin the downswing. If you can do this without losing your spine angle you'll put the club in the slot and hit it from the inside. If you have the same grip that used to cause a pull, it will now be a draw.
The one thing I do have is a fantastic grip. That has been perfected over the years by two family members who make me have 50001023402 swing thoughts before I swing the club which has probably done way more god damn damage than good.

as for 2)

Man, I'll certainly try. I love golf. I just hate sucking at it. It infuriates me because my whole life I've watched people be good at it.

I'm going to have to try some things at the range this year...
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I realize I'm in better shape than most people in this lazy world...

but I've walked 36 holes in summer heat and I don't feel like it has ever effected me a bit...

I just don't think it's fair to say people who ride a cart aren't playing a sport because they are riding a cart...that doesn't make sense to me. I'm no better in a cart than I am when I'm walking. In fact, I'm probably better when I walk but my fat lazy friends don't ever want to walk.

If your point is that fat lazy people aren't athletes than for the most part I'll agree with you...but you see them play softball, basketball and golf so I don't think anyone tries to argue that the first two aren't sports because of that.

My dad and uncle are avid golfers and both played hockey at MSU...once my dad's hockey career was over he shifted to golf and is an amazing golfer...I find it hard to believe someone with no athletic ability to could pick up a golf club and, with practice, become a good golfer...

you have to have athletic ability to be able to swing a golf club and make that piece of shit ball do what you're trying to do
I'll certainly admit that my stance is out of the mainstream. I personally think that when riding a cart they are removing an essential element of what makes difficult. The mental tax is still there, but the physical element isn't.

I routinely went out and walked during the dog ass days last summer, and by the end of the round I was definitely fatigued and it affected my game. I think walking makes golf more physically demanding, but mentally easier.
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The one thing I do have is a fantastic grip. That has been perfected over the years by two family members who make me have 50001023402 swing thoughts before I swing the club which has probably done way more god damn damage than good.

as for 2)

Man, I'll certainly try. I love golf. I just hate sucking at it. It infuriates me because my whole life I've watched people be good at it.

I'm going to have to try some things at the range this year...
Your dad's success in hockey helped make him a great golfer, as the action of a slapshot is the best analogue for a correct golf swing.

If you are the more hard-headed type, just put a 2x4 just to the outside of your ball. You'll either fix your swing plane or break your wrist.
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Your dad's success in hockey helped make him a great golfer, as the action of a slapshot is the best analogue for a correct golf swing.

If you are the more hard-headed type, just put a 2x4 just to the outside of your ball. You'll either fix your swing plane or break your wrist.
Depending on the course it can be even worse too...i remember walking Augusta when I went there and just walking it I thought I was going to keel over. I can't even imagine what it'd be like to caddy there.
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