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Old 04-13-2013, 08:59 AM  
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U.S. tells N.Korea new missile launch would be "huge mistake"

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SEOUL (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry warned North Korea on Friday it would be a "huge mistake" to test launch a medium-range missile and said the United States would never accept the reclusive country as a nuclear power.
Addressing reporters after talks with South Korea's president and leaders of the 28,000-strong U.S. military contingent in the country, Kerry also said it was up to China, North Korea's sole major ally, to "put some teeth" into efforts to press Pyongyang to abandon its nuclear ambitions.
Kerry, like other U.S. officials, played down an assessment from the Pentagon's intelligence agency that the North already had a nuclear missile capacity.
The United States, he said, wanted to resume talks about North Korea's earlier pledges to halt its nuclear programme.
But he also stressed that Washington would defend its allies in the region if necessary and pointedly said that Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader, "needs to understand, as I think he probably does, what the outcome of a conflict would be".
North Korea has repeatedly said it will not abandon nuclear weapons which it said on Friday were its "treasured" guarantor of security.
Kerry's visit coincided with preparations for Monday's anniversary of North Korean state founder Kim Il-Sung's birth date, a possible pretext for a show of strength, with speculation focusing on a possible new missile test launch.
GRAPHIC: N.Korea's military http://link.reuters.com/zur27t
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Kerry, who flies to China on Saturday and to Japan on Sunday, said that if North Korea's 30-year-old leader went ahead with the launch, "he will be choosing, wilfully, to ignore the entire international community".
"I would say ahead of time that it is a huge mistake for him to choose to do that because it will further isolate his country and further isolate his people, who frankly are desperate for food, not missile launches."
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The North has issued weeks of shrill threats of an impending war following the imposition of U.N. sanctions in response to its third nuclear test in February. Kerry said the threats were "simply unacceptable" by any standard.
"We are all united in the fact that North Korea will not be accepted as a nuclear power," he said.
Kerry later told U.S. executives in Seoul that China, as an advocate of denuclearisation, was in a position to press for a change in the North's policy.
"The reality is that if your policy is denuclearisation and it is theirs as it is ours, as it is everybody's except the North at this moment ... if that's your policy, you've got to put some teeth into it," he told the gathering.
But North Korea showed little inclination for further talks.
Rodong Sinmun, the mouthpiece of the ruling Workers' Party, said Pyongyang would never abandon its nuclear programme.
"The DPRK will hold tighter the treasured sword, nuclear weapons," it said, referring to the country by its official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
BIRTHDAY CELEBRATIONS
North Korean state television showed footage of newscasts from other countries depicting the trajectory a North Korean missile launch might take.
It also showed preparations for the Kim Il-Sung birthday festivities, including floral tributes, and a stadium of thousands of school children of the Korean Children's Union, each wearing a red scarf and saluting and marching in unison.
Speculation has mounted of an impending medium-range missile test launch in the North after reports in South Korea and the United States that as many as five medium-range missiles have been moved into position on the country's east coast.
Officials in both countries believe the North is preparing to test-launch a Musudan missile, whose range of 3,500 km (2,100 miles) or more would put Japan within striking distance and may threaten the island of Guam, which houses U.S. military bases.
The North has been angry about annual military drills between U.S. and South Korean forces, describing them as a "hostile" act. The United States dispatched B52 and B2 stealth bombers from their bases to take part.
Hours before Kerry's arrival, a U.S. lawmaker quoted a report by the U.S. Defence Intelligence Agency, one of the 17 bodies that make up the U.S. intelligence community, as saying it had "moderate confidence" that North Korea had developed a nuclear bomb that could be fitted on a ballistic missile.
But Kerry poured cold water on the report said it was "inaccurate to suggest that the DPRK has fully tested, developed capabilities" as set down in the document.
South Korea's Defence Ministry said it did not believe North Korea could mount a nuclear warhead on a missile.
A U.S. official had earlier suggested that Washington's greatest concern was the possibility of unexpected developments linked to Kim Jong-un's "youth and inexperience". Asked if war seemed imminent, he replied: "Not at all."
South Korean President Park Geun-hye, meeting officials from her ruling Saenuri Party before her talks with Kerry, struck a conciliatory note by suggesting Seoul should at least listen to what North Korea had to say.
"We have a lot of issues, including the Kaesong industrial zone," local media quoted her as saying. So should we not meet with them and ask: "Just what are you trying to do?'"
The president was referring to North Korea's closure this week of the jointly run Kaesong industrial park, with the loss of 53,000 jobs.
Kerry said the United States would not object to the South talking to the North. He also did not rule out the possibility of U.S. aid some day flowing to the North, but suggested this could only happen if Pyongyang undertook real denuclearisation.
Kerry sounded upbeat about resolving a dispute between the United States and South Korea over a civil nuclear cooperation agreement that expires next year, saying he thought a compromise could be found by Park's visit to Washington next month.
South Korea is believed to want the right to reprocess its spent nuclear fuel, which would allow it to deal with a mounting stockpile of nuclear waste.
However, this could also allow it to produce bomb-grade fissile material, a step Washington is loathe to see it take in part because of its nuclear standoffs with Iran and North Korea.
"We are ... very concerned at this time about not having any ingredients that could alter our approach ... to either of those," he said. But Kerry added that he was "confident that one option or another will be able to come to fruition (with South Korea) by the time that President Park comes to Washington."*
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:46 PM   #91
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That was not the only post of Bowser's that led me to think he was taking their threat seriously. It's just one. Then there's his responses to some of my posts too.

Anyhow, those are just a couple of posts of mine that are evidence of my earlier and always stand. I could do more.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:46 PM   #92
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North Korea to 'launch missile TOMORROW' after warning foreigners to evacuate South



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Well, first, thank you for showing the posts that sent this thread down a spiral.

Second, for ****'s sake, please tune up your sarcasm meter. I'm not going to make a post saying how considerate it is that North Korea has waited until it was April 10th here in the states before they decided to start WWIII and be serious about it.

And C) - Thanks for the laugh. I needed that!
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:46 PM   #93
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That was not the only post of Bowser's that led me to think he was taking their threat seriously. It's just one. Then there's his responses to some of my posts too.
I dare you. Post them.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:49 PM   #94
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Well, first, thank you for showing the posts that sent this thread down a spiral.
Your're very welcome. I think the spiral was worsened with the appearance of one of our leading NeoCons. ( who would welcome and opportunity to nuke NK so they don't give advance weapons to Iran, which was another point I made.) If you keep quoting him, I will have to temporarily put you on ignore though.

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Second, for ****'s sake, please tune up your sarcasm meter. I'm not going to make a post saying how considerate it is that North Korea has waited until it was April 10th here in the states before they decided to start WWIII and be serious about it.
I realize that was sarcasm, but sarcasm has some truth in it. It was one of several posts of yours too. Especially in response to mine.

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Old 04-15-2013, 12:56 PM   #95
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Your're very welcome. I think the spiral was worsened with the appearance of one of our leading NeoCons. ( who would welcome and opportunity to nuke NK so they don't give advance weapons to Iran, which was another point I made.) If you keep quoting him, I will have to temporarily put you on ignore though.


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I realize that was sarcasm, but sarcasm has some truth in it.
No there's some impressive mental gymnastics...
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Well shit, everything makes sense now. She doesn't know how to interpret a sarcastic post.
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So it's like what, 4 pm over there right now? Are they waiting for the entire world to actually be April 10th before we all get bombed to oblivion? That is so considerate!
Bowser had absolutely no other intention than to be funny by posting that. Holy shit.
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If anything, Bowser has wavered back and forth on this being real or not—not me.

4-13 Bowser
"…I'm still of the mind that the instant one of the missiles goes hot, it's going to explode before it travels any significant amount of range down theater, and it won't be because of faulty maintenance." ( Okay this one is part of a mixed post but he challenges my own position as well later.)

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The four initial targets seem to be Washington DC, Hawaii, Birmingham AL, and Monterrey CA.

They seem to want to blow up our stealth bombers and aircraft carriers, too.

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The four initial targets seem to be Washington DC, Hawaii, Birmingham AL, and Monterrey CA.

They seem to want to blow up our stealth bombers and aircraft carriers, too.

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You are gullible to such things.
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He challenged my posts with this.

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So let me take a crack at this shit -

BEP does not believe that North Korea is being overly aggressive with us, but being reactionary at our refusal to send them what they need, i.e. food, medicine, supplies, and money.
He believes they're being overly aggressive because of words...as does the msm reports.
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:11 PM   #102
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Well shit, everything makes sense now. She doesn't know how to interpret a sarcastic post.
She does, but she's so eager to throw the warmonger label around that she sees them everywhere, even when they aren't really there.

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No, they are being overly aggressive because the UN (including China) recently voted to impose more sanctions because of the February nuke test.

Are you really this out-of-touch with facts?
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Why did you start this thread and ask this question Bowser?

07-04-2006

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ht=North+Korea

Serious question about Iraq vs. North Korea

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What I need to understand is why is it we invade a country that we smashed a few years back (who it would seem is or was no tactical threat to the US), and let another country who is openly threatening us with nuclear weapons go about their business test firing missles seemingly at their whim? It doesn't add up to me. You would think that if the US were being threatened by a rogue recluse who may or may not have access to nuclear weapons either now or in the very near future, that that rogue would be a memory.
See, I don't go by a few posts, I go by many. You did believe NK was some sort of real threat to the degree they needed to only be a memory. That indicates destroying them, because you think they really are a threat.
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