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Old 04-14-2013, 10:20 PM  
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@MoveTheSticks: Wonder what it would cost the Dolphins to move from #12 all the way up to #1? Secure top OT to protect Tannehill for 10+ years

@MoveTheSticks: If you are KC, would you take pick #12, a 2nd rd pick this year and a 3rd rd pick next year for the #1 pick? Purely hypothetical.
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:41 AM   #16
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Dolphins get 1.1, 3.1

Chiefs get 1.12, both their 2nds, conditional 2014 pick (even just a midrounder)
This.

Whether it's via Albert or trading down, I want 2 picks in the 2nd rnd. There is a lot of meat this year in the 2nd.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:47 AM   #17
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There are only 8 slots between their second second rounder and our original third.
I'd say 1.12 this year their #2 second and their 1st next year works. Future 1st = current 2nd
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:17 AM   #18
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In this particular draft, I would say moving down to 12 and picking up a 2 and a 3 would be just fine. This draft is short on greatness at the top, but has strong depth. The second round is going to be good this year and the third will be very solid. There is nothing at the top that is so great.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:56 AM   #19
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:29 AM   #20
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I don't think it is too much to ask for the Dolphins to pony up their 12th, this year's second and next year's second to move up to 1.1.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:44 PM   #21
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**** that. Jesus christ. The national media expects the Chiefs to just happily take it in the ass in a trade down scenario - and the worst part is the fans just being like "YEA GREAT DEAL."

It's not a great deal. It's not even a good deal. It's a deal that is raping you in the asshole. You stand pat and take the best guy on your board if that is the best offer you get. Period.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:55 PM   #22
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**** that. Jesus christ. The national media expects the Chiefs to just happily take it in the ass in a trade down scenario - and the worst part is the fans just being like "YEA GREAT DEAL."

It's not a great deal. It's not even a good deal. It's a deal that is raping you in the asshole. You stand pat and take the best guy on your board if that is the best offer you get. Period.

Yeah, the Chiefs are much better off with Joeckel or Fisher rather than two to three impact starters.
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:00 PM   #23
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Yeah, the Chiefs are much better off with Joeckel or Fisher rather than two to three impact starters.
By the time you get to pick number twelve, the top 3 pass rushers will be off the board, the top 3 tackles will be off the board, the top 2 QBs will be off the board, and the top three five-techs will be off the board. Milliner will also be off the Board. So. Who are you going to take? There is a steep drop from 1 to 12 in talent level.
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:07 PM   #24
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By the time you get to pick number twelve, the top 3 pass rushers will be off the board, the top 3 tackles will be off the board, the top 2 QBs will be off the board, and the top three five-techs will be off the board. Milliner will also be off the Board. So. Who are you going to take? There is a steep drop from 1 to 12 in talent level.
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:16 PM   #25
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Miami: Joeckel, Luke
Jags: Floyd, Sharrif
Raiders: Smith, Geno
Eagles: Jordan, Dion
Detroit: Fisher, Eric
Browns: Richardson, Sheldon
Cards: Johnson, Lane
Bills: Ansah, Ezekial
Jets: Lotulelei, Star
Titans: Milliner, Dee
Chargers: Mingo, Barkevious



Now what the hell do you do?
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:20 PM   #26
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Miami: Joeckel, Luke
Jags: Floyd, Sharrif
Raiders: Smith, Geno
Eagles: Jordan, Dion
Detroit: Fisher, Eric
Browns: Richardson, Sheldon
Cards: Johnson, Lane
Bills: Ansah, Ezekial
Jets: Lotulelei, Star
Titans: Milliner, Dee
Chargers: Mingo, Barkevious



Now what the hell do you do?
First off, the "strength" of this draft is its depth. People believe you'll get the same talent at ten that you will at 40.

Secondly, I think your projection there is WAY off. Regardless, there will be a starter at #12 for the Chiefs and there will be a starter at Miami's second rounder, making the Chiefs a better team.

What would *I* do at #12 based on your projection? Warmack or Cooper or Austin.
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:23 PM   #27
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. So you draft a goddamned GUARD. Troll.
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:23 PM   #28
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Miami: Joeckel, Luke
Jags: Floyd, Sharrif
Raiders: Smith, Geno
Eagles: Jordan, Dion
Detroit: Fisher, Eric
Browns: Richardson, Sheldon
Cards: Johnson, Lane
Bills: Ansah, Ezekial
Jets: Lotulelei, Star
Titans: Milliner, Dee
Chargers: Mingo, Barkevious



Now what the hell do you do?
Tavon Austin.
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:25 PM   #29
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. So you draft a goddamned GUARD. Troll.
**** you.

Didn't you see Austin, you ****ing moron?
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:30 PM   #30
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Tavon Austin.
Yep.

And if that doesn't appeal to Reid, take another trade down offer from somebody who might want Barkley or Austin themselves.
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