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Old 04-15-2013, 07:34 AM  
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Abortionist Kermit Gosnell and Obama’s Silence


Abortionist Kermit Gosnell and Obama’s Silence



One month.

That’s how long before President Obama inserted himself into the Trayvon Martin case, further drumming up the racist allegations that painted suspect George Zimmerman as a murderer.

Four Hours. That’s the window of time separating the insidious murder of school children in Newtown Connecticut and the President’s first statement about the tragedy.

Twenty-seven months and counting…the same president who has routinely injected himself into national judicial cases, has remained conspicuously quiet regarding the heinous charges brought against Dr. Kermit Gosnell in Philadelphia.

Abortionist Gosnell is charged with eight counts of first-degree murder, as well as multiple counts of conspiracy, criminal solicitation and violation of a state law that forbids abortions after the 24th week of pregnancy. As the case unfolds before the Common Pleas Court in Philadelphia, the grotesque details of Gosnell’s practice have shaken even the most abortion-ambivalent Americans to the core.

And yet, President Obama has remained uncharacteristically quiet. The same president who was quick to exacerbate the charges of racism in the Trayvon Martin case, even when none had been proven, has declined to address the African American children murdered at the hand of Gosnell, and the hundreds of minority women who were exploited by the abortion industry.

The blackout from the media is shameful but not surprising …but the silence from the president is deafening.
Obama’s awkward racial comment regarding the Trayvon Martin case, “If I had a son he would be like Trayvon,” must not apply to the thousands of African American babies slaughtered at the hands of Abortionist Gosnell.

So why is President Obama silent on the issue? One only need look carefully into President Obama’s legislative history to find the answer.

Three times during Obama’s tenure as an Illinois state senator, a package of Born Alive bills was introduced on the senate floor. Each time, then state senator Obama voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, siding against protecting babies who survived an abortion.

The same senator who voted “present” countless times to avoid taking a stand on contentious issues, was more than eager to cast a vote denying care to victims of botched abortions.

While Americans cringe at Abortionist Gosnell’s treatment of viable babies who survive an abortion – snipping their spinal cords with a pair of unsterile medical scissors – we only need to look at the President’s past voting record on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act to understand his position.

These same seven babies who survived Gosnell’s late-term abortion procedure would just further “burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform the abortion,” according to President Obama’s argument against the Born Alive Protection Act of 2002.

In other words, if a baby survives an abortion, the death plan marked out for this child should be carried out regardless of the child’s viability.

If Obama wasn’t moved by the testimonies of nurses revealing how the born-alive infants were often discarded in a soiled utility room where they were left to die, why would we expect him to react differently to Gosnell’s post-abortion infanticide? After all, one could certainly make the case that Gosnell’s brutal yet quick killing technique is far less ruthless than leaving a frail newborn to die a slow anguished death – which is precisely what Obama voted for as state senator.

And that’s why we have yet to hear from President Obama regarding Gosnell’s victims. His years in the Illinois state legislature were invested in arguing against the protection of babies who survive botched abortions, labeling them as a “burden” to both mother and attending abortionist.

Were he to speak out on behalf of the babies murdered in Gosnell’s clinic, Obama would be contradicting his repeated votes against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act and betraying his unholy alliance with pro-abortion extremists who advocate for abortion on demand at all stages.

Any statement from Obama would only expose the hidden truth that as state senator he in essence voted for the death of Gosnell’s victims… different instruments and different means…but the same result.

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Old 04-16-2013, 04:29 PM   #91
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Maybe it's just not as important to them.
Of course not, when bias is in your favor, why bitch about it. They tend to disregard the fact that it is extremely myopic and dangerous to allow for such a one sided press.
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:31 PM   #92
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As I say this is not a column about abortion. Reasonable people may disagree on abortion, though I suspect, each side sees the other side as anything but reasonable. This is a column about how corrupt the mainstream media have become. This is a piece about journalistic malpractice.

http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/media...-murder-trial/
4 graphs about media, 14 about abortion. I think Bernie forgot the purpose of his column in between his opener and closer.
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:39 PM   #93
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Of course not, when bias is in your favor, why bitch about it. They tend to disregard the fact that it is extremely myopic and dangerous to allow for such a one sided press.
People like one-sided press because they want someone to tell them they are right. That why Fox News and MSNBC have the business models they do and why CNN is failing. Not saying CNN doesn't have it's own bias, but it's certainly not the other two.

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Old 04-16-2013, 08:01 PM   #94
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Obama can’t comment against Gosnell, because Obama stands with him

Barry opposed companion bill to Born Alive as state senator that sought to protect abortion survivors from the Gosnells of the world.

Although Obama had no trouble commenting on the ongoing Trayvon Martin case, White House spokesperson Jay Carney said today Obama wouldn’t be commenting on the Kermit Gosnell mass murder case because he “cannot take a position on an ongoing trial” or “comment further on an ongoing legal proceeding”…

Of course the White House wants to avoid this topic. What a disaster Gosnell is for Obama.

Gosnell first brings to Obama’s door the uncomfortable topic of infanticide. Obama is well known to have voted four times against the Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act as state senator, which sought to protect abortion survivors.

http://www.jillstanek.com/2008/02/li...rotection-act/

But Obama also opposed two companion bills to BAIPA, one of which brings him zero degrees of separation from Gosnell. I was impressed with Fox’s Ed Henry, who went there in his questions to Carney today.

On April 4, 2002, Obama testified against Senate Bill 1663, which required abortionists to provide “reasonable measures consistent with good medical practice” to abortion survivors and to plan to have a second physician present if there was a “reasonable likelihood” that the abortion would result “in a live born child.”

You can read the entire transcript here, pages 28-35, but the gist of Obama’s opposition was that he had full faith in abortionists:

The only plausible rationale, to my mind, of this legislation would be if you had a suspicion that a doctor… (a) is going to make the wrong assessment, and (b) if the physician discovered, after the labor had been induced, that, in fact, he made an error… and… would not try to exercise the sort of medical measures and practices that would be involved in saving that child.

Now, if you think that there are possibilities that doctors would not do that, then maybe this bill make sense, but I… feel… an additional doctor who then has to be called in an emergency situation to come in and make these assessments is really designed to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician….

[i]f these are children who are being born alive, I, at least, have confidence that a doctor who is in that room is going to make sure that they’re looked after.

Obama could not fathom that an abortionist who had been paid to kill a baby wouldn’t turn around and try to save a viable baby’s life in the event of a botch.

Kermit Gosnell would have been one of the abortionists in which Obama had “confidence.” Most know by now Gosnell is on trial for murdering seven abortion survivors and one mother.

Gosnell was committing abortions in Pennsylvania at the very time this bill was being debated in Illinois. Who knows, perhaps Gosnell was “snipping” the spinal cord of an abortion survivor at the moment Obama testified to his sterling character. After all, the grand jury report stated Gosnell likely killed “hundreds” of abortion survivors during the three decades he was in business.

Barack Obama has stated on record that he stands with the Kermit Gosnells of America. He can’t walk that back without opening the door to regulations such as he rejected as state senator.

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Old 05-13-2013, 01:51 PM   #95
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Doctor found guilty of first-degree murder in Philadelphia abortion case.

Philadelphia (CNN) -- A jury Monday found a Philadelphia abortion provider guilty of three counts of first-degree murder.

Dr. Kermit Gosnell, 72, was accused of killing babies by using scissors to cut their spinal cords. Authorities alleged that some of the infants were born alive and viable during the sixth, seventh and eighth months of pregnancy.

Monday's first-degree murder conviction means Gosnell, who is not a board-certified obstetrician or gynecologist, could be sentenced to death.

Gosnell also was accused in the death of Karnamaya Mongar, 41, who died of an anesthetic overdose during a second-trimester abortion at his West Philadelphia clinic. In that case, the jury found him guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

Gosnell was also found guilty of 21 counts of abortion of the unborn, 24 weeks or older.

In Pennsylvania, abortions past 24 weeks are illegal unless the health of the mother is at stake.

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Old 05-13-2013, 02:31 PM   #96
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Gosnell was also found guilty of 21 counts of abortion of the unborn, 24 weeks or older.
A bit ironic, that.
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:13 PM   #97
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why would any woman carry a child fathered by a random sperm to term and painfully give birth to it, when the technology exists to play god, pre select the sperm with the best potential, and grow it in an incubator?

it's like choosing not to learn to drive just cause walking "feels more natural"

if all women did this there would be no more abortion
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so, no one here is going to defend the mainstream media's lack of coverage on this? Where are the people who constantly refute the claims of media bias? Have you finally conceded the point?

First, what is "mainstream media"? Why are MSNBC/ABC/CBS mainstream but Fox/Drudge/Rush/eleventy billion websites not?

Because in the 1970s 90% of people got their news from ABC/CBS/NBC? Hey, guess what, it's 2013 and I can't even tell you the names of the big evening news anchors anymore.

Second, why the butthurt? This isn't a story about abortion and why it's bad, it's a story about a psycho mass murderer who apparently had no morals at all and why he is bad. I support abortion rights, but I think this guy should get the chair.
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First, what is "mainstream media"? Why are MSNBC/ABC/CBS mainstream but Fox/Drudge/Rush/eleventy billion websites not?

Because in the 1970s 90% of people got their news from ABC/CBS/NBC? Hey, guess what, it's 2013 and I can't even tell you the names of the big evening news anchors anymore.

Second, why the butthurt? This isn't a story about abortion and why it's bad, it's a story about a psycho mass murderer who apparently had no morals at all and why he is bad. I support abortion rights, but I think this guy should get the chair.
You normally post intelligent and insightful responses... this is not one of them.

If you honestly don't think there is an issue with NBC, ABC, and CBS failing to cover this story then you have serious problems.
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:36 AM   #102
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There's legal abortion and then there's illegal murder. The defendant appears to have been a murderer, plain and simple. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot that's really particularly political to discuss here.
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And ABC, at long last, finally reported on the trial once the guilty verdict was reached. Shameful that they completely blacked this story out.
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I am going to Give Obama a pass on this one on the odd chance he learned something by sticking his nose in business like the Travon thing where really as POTUS he has no business offering up an opinion. Sometimes politicians need to overcome the love affair with sound of their own voice. I have little doubt had this been a story of a woman who died after being denied and abortion there would have been an abundance of coverage.
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First, what is "mainstream media"? Why are MSNBC/ABC/CBS mainstream but Fox/Drudge/Rush/eleventy billion websites not?

Because in the 1970s 90% of people got their news from ABC/CBS/NBC? Hey, guess what, it's 2013 and I can't even tell you the names of the big evening news anchors anymore.

Second, why the butthurt? This isn't a story about abortion and why it's bad, it's a story about a psycho mass murderer who apparently had no morals at all and why he is bad. I support abortion rights, but I think this guy should get the chair.
Killin babies is moral in your world? Just kill em in time.
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