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Old 04-15-2013, 08:25 PM  
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Why did Obama not call the Boston bombings an act of terrorism?

Regardless of who did it, it was a clear act of terrorism. Why did he not call it for what it is?

I listened to Savage a little on the way home from the gym and heard reports that the Boston Police are furious that he (Obama) did not call it terrorism

Also there are reports that they have a Saudi National under lockdown in a hospital and there is a BOLO (Be On the Look Out) for a "dark skinned foreign national" which apparently the media is also not reporting.


No matter how politically correct one may be, you cannot pretend terrorism does not exist and you cannot pretend this was not such an act regardless of whom the perp is.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:21 AM   #121
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They are simply to point out the hypocrisy of the 'Great and Powerful Oz' a/k/a Obama.




They are mostly the Dems - I'm not a Republican (can't stand politics, actually) but I can't stand the absolute 2-faced hypocrisy that has sprouted from the left-wing.

It would be laughably pathetic if it weren't so dangerous.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:21 AM   #122
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Exactly!!

Regardless, the ACT WAS INTENDED TO CAUSE TERROR.

Therefore, no matter who did it, or why, IT IS TERRORISM.

and Shelley and her girlfriends call ME a 'dumbass'??
You said "exactly" and then said something completely different than al's post.

I take it that reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits?
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:22 AM   #123
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This thread shows why terrorism is a word that does not have full agreement and is more often used as a political tool.
To my knowledge, our own govt, even before 9/11 and after say intent is what they use to differentiate the word.

For instance some could claim this as terrorism:



Oh, and they're enemy combatants too.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:22 AM   #124
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Exactly!!

Regardless, the ACT WAS INTENDED TO CAUSE TERROR.

Therefore, no matter who did it, or why, IT IS TERRORISM.

and Shelley and her girlfriends call ME a 'dumbass'??
uhh.... no. We don't call mass shooters and mass stabbers terrorists. Maybe in your world, but not in the real world where the rest of us live.

If the guy was hypothetically just a violent psychopath, but he's afraid of getting caught, then a bomb might be a logical weapon of choice.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:22 AM   #125
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All that said, if I had to bet on it, its more than likely going to end up being some form of terrorism.

I just don't understand why people have a problem with the people in charge waiting until we know for sure before using a label that might not be accurate.
Agreed. Chances are that it's terrorism of some kind, but it's not a surety. Therefore I have zero issue with them not labeling it terrorism until it is a known fact.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:23 AM   #126
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Bombs set up to detonate in a crowd certainly is the definition of a terrorist attack.

There isn't any question about that.
You are wrong.

If the motive is nothing poltiical, just a simple desire to kill, then a bomb is no different than a guy spraying bullets into the crowd. He'd just be a mass murderer, not a terrorist.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:25 AM   #127
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This thread shows why terrorism is a word that does not have full agreement and is more often used as a political tool.
To my knowledge, our own govt, even before 9/11 and after say intent is what they use to differentiate the word.

For instance some could claim this as terrorism:



Oh, and they're enemy combatants too.
If we lost, then yeah, they probably would have been remembered as terrorists.

And we'd all drink tea and have funny accents.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:32 AM   #128
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To flip it around, you can be a terrorist with a simple old-timey revolver.

Randomly shoot a couple people, escape, then release a statement to the press saying that the shootings will continue until we do Y in X country or stop doing Z in X country, or until such and such law is repealed, or whatever.

A terrorist is someone who wants to cause a policy change using violence instead of the political process. A terrorist act is an act of violence for that purpose. Its what sets them apart from most hostage-takers (gimme money and a getaway car) and psychopaths (I kill just because its fun)
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:35 AM   #129
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If we lost, then yeah, they probably would have been remembered as terrorists.
T'is the point.

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Old 04-16-2013, 09:40 AM   #130
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Meanwhile, there's folks on the left hoping the Boston bombing was done by either a white supremacist or a tea bagger.
Well of course. Like the DC sniper in 2003, they were all saying it was a white supremacist. Oops.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:42 AM   #131
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If we're throwing money in a pool, I'm keeping my chips on angry tax protestor. April 15th could just be a coincidence, but if thats what it ended up being then yeah, he'd be a domestic terrorist.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:43 AM   #132
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You seem to have some anger issues.

Also, could you please expand upon your comment on liberalism being a dangerous "religious cult"? Emphasis on religious, please.
Wikipedia claims, "A cult of personality arises when a country's leader uses mass media to create an idealized and heroic public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise."

As this typically occurs in a totalitarian nation, that country's ruler, with complete control of the media, is able to mandate what images of him or herself are being disseminated thereby furthering his cult-like status.

Obama does this through the media. No major media outlet besides Fox will ever report anything negative on the Obamas, and Fox is demonized and ridiculed daily simply because it dares to do so.

This is also accomplished by brainwashing children in school - these are videos of children being indoctrinated by singing songs in honor of Obama (kind of like the German kids singing 'Horst Wessel' in the 30s)

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?client=...ipcontrinter=1

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This is a teacher, admonishing a student for daring ask a question about Obama :

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That was a SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHER, in a PUBLIC SCHOOL, telling a student that he will BE ARRESTED for criticizing Obama.

People worship the Obamamessiah as if he's a savior...

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Old 04-16-2013, 09:44 AM   #133
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If we're throwing money in a pool, I'm keeping my chips on angry tax protestor. April 15th could just be a coincidence, but if thats what it ended up being then yeah, he'd be a domestic terrorist.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:44 AM   #134
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They're suggesting the possibility of a right wing extremist group.

Let me think why. Oh, wait, never mind, that's ****ing intuitively obvious. If it ain't some Islamic nutbag it's usually a right wing nutbag. There's plenty of left wing nutbags, of course, but they usually don't blow things up as part of their program of nuttery.

Hopefully we'll find out soon enough what brand of evil nutbag did this, and then hang him by his/their testicles.

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This actually has more earmarks of domestic terrorism than an international attack.

Obviously, it's too early to really have a clue, but improvised claymores seems a little beneath your average international terrorist. This actually does have something of a paramilitary bend to it.

But it's an odd target for right-wing extremists and an odd time for any left-wing extremists (who do blow things up, but generally don't target random populations, especially when there's nothing really on the 'agenda' for them to target.).

I'd be very very careful politicizing this right now were I running the show. This could very easily backfire on some very loud voices right now.
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If we're throwing money in a pool, I'm keeping my chips on angry tax protestor. April 15th could just be a coincidence, but if thats what it ended up being then yeah, he'd be a domestic terrorist.
That's not a bad theory, paired with the historical symbolism of Boston as a place of tax protest.
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