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Old 04-17-2013, 09:25 AM  
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Kansas Governor Brownback signs 2nd Amendment Protection Act into law

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Any act, law, treaty, order, rule or regulation of the government of the United States which violates the second amendment to the constitution of the United States is null, void and unenforceable in the state of Kansas.

The second amendment to the constitution of the United States reserves to the people, individually, the right to keep and bear arms as that right was understood at the time that Kansas was admitted to statehood in 1861, and the guaranty of that right is a matter of contract between the state and people of Kansas and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Kansas in 1859 and the United States in 1861.
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:12 PM   #31
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I bolded that last sentence, do you mind explaining what you mean by that?

What about the rest of the post preceding that remark fails to explain it?
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:43 PM   #32
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What about the rest of the post preceding that remark fails to explain it?
So are you predicting that there will be a civil war with people killing each other?
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:50 PM   #33
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So are you predicting that there will be a civil war with people killing each other?
At some point yes. It has happened before in this country. No reason why it wouldn't happen again.
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:52 PM   #34
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Any act, law, blah, blah, blah violative of the 2nd Amendment is illegal anywhere in teh US, not just Kansas, and whether such act, law, blah, blah, blah violates the 2nd Amendment is up to the Courts, not Kansas.
Blah blah blah. **** courts. **** Lawyers.
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:53 PM   #35
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At some point yes. It has happened before in this country. No reason why it wouldn't happen again.
While I do not think that this will happen...if there was ever an issue that could cause such a thing, the 2nd Amendment would be it.
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:05 PM   #36
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While I do not think that this will happen...if there was ever an issue that could cause such a thing, the 2nd Amendment would be it.
I guarantee you it will happen again. And I have always believed the gun issue would be the issue to finally set it off.
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:44 PM   #37
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At some point yes. It has happened before in this country. No reason why it wouldn't happen again.
There are lots of reasons why it wouldn't happen again. You're being ridiculous.
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:51 PM   #38
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There are lots of reasons why it wouldn't happen again. You're being ridiculous.
Such as?
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:02 PM   #39
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Any act, law, blah, blah, blah violative of the 2nd Amendment is illegal anywhere in teh US, not just Kansas, and whether such act, law, blah, blah, blah violates the 2nd Amendment is up to the Courts, not Kansas.
That's what I thought.
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:03 PM   #40
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That's what I thought.
No, it doesn't have to be that way. And wasn't always.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:06 PM   #41
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I guarantee you it will happen again. And I have always believed the gun issue would be the issue to finally set it off.
Well I doubt that because the Civil War we did have was mostly about a single controversy in which both sides of the controversy were separated geographically.

Civil Wars in other countries typically involve ethnic or tribal loyalties or serious social inequity.

I don't see how you could muster up sides in the United States for a Civil War around some minor issue like guns for sport.

What do you think would happen, the governments and militaries would dissolve and then the gunowners would square off against the gunless after everybody admitted what side they belonged to?

Thinking like that may make going to shoot your guns more fun but that is crazy thinking.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:18 PM   #42
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Well I doubt that because the Civil War we did have was mostly about a single controversy in which both sides of the controversy were separated geographically.

Civil Wars in other countries typically involve ethnic or tribal loyalties or serious social inequity.
And what exactly was the single issue that our previous civil war revolved around?

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I don't see how you could muster up sides in the United States for a Civil War around some minor issue like guns for sport.
Keep telling yourself this is just about "sport", and keep missing just how much impact this issue is, and will continue to have on this country.

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What do you think would happen, the governments and militaries would dissolve and then the gunowners would square off against the gunless after everybody admitted what side they belonged to?

Thinking like that may make going to shoot your guns more fun but that is crazy thinking.
Uh, no. It will be the people against the government.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:22 PM   #43
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Such as?
Mostly, we have AR-15's and they have drones.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:37 PM   #44
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Mostly, we have AR-15's and they have drones.

The British had a super power army and navy and our forefathers had mostly UNprofessional soldiers and sailors.

The odds didn't matter to a group of people fighting for what they believed in.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:54 PM   #45
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And what exactly was the single issue that our previous civil war revolved around?



Keep telling yourself this is just about "sport", and keep missing just how much impact this issue is, and will continue to have on this country.



Uh, no. It will be the people against the government.
Lincoln was the first Republican to win the Presidential election and the Republicans were the party of the abolitionists and next thing you know
the Southern States started seceding.

What about the people that think that Civil War is a bad idea?
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