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Old 04-17-2013, 02:12 PM  
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Claire McCaskill: If Boston bombings are terrorism, why not Sandy Hook?

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Claire McCaskill: If Boston bombings are terrorism, why not Sandy Hook?

By SCOTT WONG | 4/17/13 1:10 PM EDT

If President Barack Obama and the U.S. government consider the perpetrator of the Boston bombings a terrorist, then why not the shooter who killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School?

“Based on the evidence at this point, is there any difference between Sandy Hook and Boston other than the choice of weapon?” Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) asked Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano during a congressional hearing Wednesday.

Napolitano didn’t have a simple response.

“In terms of intent for death and destruction and injury, no,” she said, “Methodology, yes. And we don’t know the motivation behind, certainly, Boston — we don’t know whether it was domestic, it’s international ...”

“Or if it was identical to the motivation in Sandy Hook,” McCaskill suggested.

“It’s impossible for me to sit at the table today and say they are identical except in effect and impact,” Napolitano said.

On the same day the Senate was expected to vote on several gun-control provisions, McCaskill pressed Napolitano to reevaluate when and how the federal government defines a criminal act as terrorism — especially when, in the case of the Boston incident, no suspects or motives are known.

“We are so quick to call Boston terror,” McCaskill said. “Why aren’t we calling the man with the high-capacity assault weapon and the high-capacity magazine, why aren’t we calling him a terrorist?”

“I don’t know the answer to that question,” the secretary replied.

“It just is troubling to me,” said McCaskill, a former county prosecutor. “I think both of them, maybe they had identical motives. Just one chose a military-style weapon with a high-capacity magazine, and the other one chose to make a homemade bomb.”

A day after Monday’s twin Boston bombings that killed three people and injured 176, Obama told reporters the FBI is investigating the attack as “an act of terror.” Napolitano repeated that line in testimony before the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Wednesday morning.

Later Wednesday afternoon, an amendment by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) — requiring background checks for firearms purchases — was expected to fall short of the 60 votes needed to pass.

The Senate will take up eight other amendments as well, including a ban on assault weapons and a ban on high-capacity magazines like those used by Adam Lanza in the Sandy Hook shooting in Newtown, Conn., in December.

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Old 04-17-2013, 02:58 PM   #16
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More evidence that the left is trying to make as though it's right-wingers..

Of course. That's why you have MSNBC talking about "Tea Partiers" as culprits. It's their angry, bitchy, limp-wristed response to the obvious Muslim assumption everyone (including Liberals by the way) immediately thinks of EVERY TIME something happens after 9/11. It's only natural and you can't stop nature, although Libs think they can.


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Old 04-17-2013, 03:24 PM   #17
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Shit, I guess they're going to make bombs illegal now.

And one of the highlights of first grade for me was Bring A Bomb To School Day.

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Old 04-17-2013, 03:57 PM   #18
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Who gives a **** what you call it? Just babble being they know there is nothing they can do about it but want their stance known as "this is terrible".

Well no shit sherlock.
petegz gives a ****. He gives a real big ****. He's obsessed with it.


Why did Obama not call the Boston bombings an act of terrorism?
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:32 PM   #19
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She doesn't understand the difference between mass murder and terrorism, and that you can have one without the other.
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:10 PM   #20
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:20 PM   #21
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It think you are all missing the point. If they can somehow call mass shooting a terrorist act, then they have more legislative muscle to enact gun restrictions based on anti terror laws and jurisdiction by Homeland Security. A random evil man brandishing a gun can too easily be passed off as an isolated incident, but if its a terrorist attack, then the federal government must act, by golly.
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:33 PM   #22
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Was terror injected into the country through violence?

Since when does someone need an agenda to terrorize the public?
Since the word terrorism was invented.
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:34 PM   #23
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Who gives a **** what you call it? Just babble being they know there is nothing they can do about it but want their stance known as "this is terrible".

Well no shit sherlock.
Identifying what we are dealing with seems pretty important to me.
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Ill probably get blasted for this but, Is anyone else sick and tired of hearing about Sandy Hook? It feels like Sandy Hook was thought to to be the final straw to get the ball rolling on gun control and some lawmakers just wont let it go.

I read an article yesterday on how tragedy has struck twice now for sandy hook. Apparently there were a few participants in the Boston marathon from Newton running to honor the victims. None of them were near the blasts, but some media outlet searched them out and wrote up an article on how tragic this was for them. The story just mainly rehashed the incident in Newtown.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:11 PM   #25
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Ill probably get blasted for this but, Is anyone else sick and tired of hearing about Sandy Hook?
I am. I mean, I felt aweful about it when it first happened. But to think how strict gun control is in Conn, that this would improve things is just such a stupid disconnect because it's really exploitation it makes me angry. But this is how demagogues operate. It starts to harden one on that past incident.
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Since the word terrorism was invented.
Was Boston an act of terror?
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Was Boston an act of terror?
How should I know? Probably, but we don't know who did it or why.

Let's say a store owner was going broke, so he blew up his building for insurance money. That wouldn't be terrorism. It would just be a greedy asshole with no respect for the lives of others.

Terrorism is easily the most likely explanation, but it isn't the ONLY POSSIBLE explanation.
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The Left if ****ing desperate to pin this on the Right somehow and blame guns whle they are at it
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How should I know? Probably, but we don't know who did it or why.

Let's say a store owner was going broke, so he blew up his building for insurance money. That wouldn't be terrorism. It would just be a greedy asshole with no respect for the lives of others.

Terrorism is easily the most likely explanation, but it isn't the ONLY POSSIBLE explanation.
Are you ****ing serious?
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How should I know? Probably, but we don't know who did it or why.

Let's say a store owner was going broke, so he blew up his building for insurance money. That wouldn't be terrorism. It would just be a greedy asshole with no respect for the lives of others.

Terrorism is easily the most likely explanation, but it isn't the ONLY POSSIBLE explanation.
Your example doesn't come close to the reality of Boston.

Multiple bombs set. Bomber(s) don't stick around to face the consequences. That isn't mass murder, the intent is to terrorize. Terrorize in the reality it all could happen again. You don't need a political motive to terrorize. Some sick **** just getting his jollies watching the explosion over and over on tv thinking it would be great to do again before he's caught is terrorism. Maybe not the form you think it is but he has already set in motion the alteration of how we do things in the future publicly. To me, by default, that fits the definition of terrorism.

Also, because the way it's worded in the Patriot Act, this is considered an act of terrorism thus allowing the authorities to proceed with the investigation the same as if it was assumed AQ did it.
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