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Old 04-17-2013, 05:39 PM  
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Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price

Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2013, 6:46 PM EDT
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The much-discussed potential trade of Branden Albert from the Chiefs to the Dolphins doesn’t appear likely at the price Albert is currently seeking.

Although the Chiefs and Dolphins can probably agree on compensation — the Dolphins sending a second-round pick to Kansas City — the hangup is that Albert wants the kind of money that the Dolphins aren’t willing to spend. Specifically, according to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Albert wants between $8 million and $9 million a year on a long-term deal.

In other words, Albert is looking for the same kind of contract that left tackle Jake Long got from the Rams — the very contract the Dolphins wouldn’t give Long, which is why he left Miami for St. Louis.

If the Dolphins weren’t willing to pay Long that kind of money, it’s hard to see why they’d be willing to give up a second-round draft pick for the privilege of paying Albert that kind of money. So the Dolphins may need to look elsewhere for a left tackle. And Albert may have to settle for playing this season for the Chiefs, making $9.8 million, and hitting free agency next year.

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Old 04-18-2013, 09:41 AM   #721
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I have talked with Clay for about 10 years on here and other sites. I know how he goes overboard at times, as I do. For years and years people said he was constantly flip flopping...now, it's bad that he sticks to his guns? Ok.

What I'm saying is that it's easy to focus on the takes of a couple situations and ignore the rest when you want to throw stones at a guy that posts a lot.

Perfect example is bringing up 2-3 year old posts of mine about Stanzi.

Shit, throw Studebaker in that conversation as well as I thought he had a nice ceiling after his proday.

Fact is, Clay has been right a whole lot more than he has been wrong the last couple years and it drives guys like you crazy.

It's funny to watch.
It's hilarious when people just prove my point for me, I know a 100% I could find many posts from last season with you crowing about "put Ricky in" without even bothering to look. "2-3 years ago", another lie for everyone to see.

Also nice dodge on my question, answer it? Wait I already know the answer is an emphatic "yes! at least that good".

Stop talking about me bringing up the past, GC is shitting his pants about Smith in THIS VERY THREAD, and I know I could find something about DMC probably from this week, but guarantee I could find one in the last month. Because he, much like you, is locked on and delusional and he "just knows".

You are a proven liar already, but I'll prove it again, you have not talked with Clay for "10+" years, you came with Stanzi and good lord, I along with countless others, hope that you leave with him.

Send Dane some more FB friend requests already.

I have not once pointed out GC for being "wrong", I don't want him to flip flop, he has been cornered and proven wrong clearly on his argument points in this very thread, he very well may be right about DMC and SS, I just want him to say "I hate him and think he will suck, but he might not". Just like you, still to this day, have been clearly proven wrong about Stanzi, but you still will not admit that he does not have the ability to ever be anything in the NFL, which is why you dodged my question in the first place.

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Old 04-18-2013, 09:43 AM   #722
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I don't get why you think it's such a badge of honor to have such unjustified certainty over and over again. Maybe it would be a good idea to mix a little humility in from time to time.
Unjustified certainty?

Look, I don't rely on anyone elses opinion on anything and create my own opinion from data I've collected myself and I rarely change my mind. I almost always stick to my guns in a debate because I truly believe I have factored all the info into my conclusion.

If I'm proven wrong, I've had no problem admitting as much over the years...but I don't do so prematurely.
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Albert is traded/released (and if released giving us a high comp pick) and at worst we have a need at RT again that's easy to fill...
We will not be getting any kind of comp picks next year because of all the FAs we signed this year.

If we get a comp for letting Albert walk after this year, it wouldn't come till the 2015 draft...and that's if we don't sign a lot of "qualifying free agents" next off season.

FTR that would be a lot smarter to do that to just trade him for a mid-late second rounder this year.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:44 AM   #723
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Why couldn't they just sign a vet, get the draft pick, and move on
We could. The options aren't as slim as you'd think.

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from a guy that they don't want to play at LT or pay what his demands are?
His demands can't be above value and there's no reason to move him. He's a top 10 LT...

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Because you aren't franchising this guy next year at a higher salary.
Absolutely not. The season goes well enough you can get him signed or you let him go.

You have two options: A) Albert at LT and Rookie RT to be named for one year

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B) Albert traded for a 2nd, his replacement drafted at 1.1 (with RT still a huge concern and the unknown of any rook coming in, at LT of all places, with a QB who takes a ton of sacks.)
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:44 AM   #724
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I have talked with Clay for about 10 years on here and other sites. I know how he goes overboard at times, as I do. For years and years people said he was constantly flip flopping...now, it's bad that he sticks to his guns? Ok.

What I'm saying is that it's easy to focus on the takes of a couple situations and ignore the rest when you want to throw stones at a guy that posts a lot.

Perfect example is bringing up 2-3 year old posts of mine about Stanzi.

Shit, throw Studebaker in that conversation as well as I thought he had a nice ceiling after his proday.

Fact is, Clay has been right a whole lot more than he has been wrong the last couple years and it drives guys like you crazy.

It's funny to watch.
Clay decided to become 100% contrarian. We've sucked shit, so he looks right more often than not. It doesn't mean that his specific takes have any particular merit, though.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:45 AM   #725
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:46 AM   #726
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Yet somehow people believe that drafting a QB that went 7-6 last year is going to take us to the Super Bowl. Has anyone ever bothered to look how low the defenses were ranked when Geno put up his gawdy stats? I did a long time ago, and I think Stephen Hawking could of put up pretty impressive numbers against most of those defenses.

This is coming from someone who wants Geno.
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I'd rather trade Albert and a pick to the Packers for the 26th pick.

Packers Oline is alway banged up and Aaron Rogers needs to win now. Screw Miami
I thought about that, too.

They have zero money in the coffers. None. They wouldn't be able to afford him.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:49 AM   #728
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Unjustified certainty?

Look, I don't rely on anyone elses opinion on anything and create my own opinion from data I've collected myself and I rarely change my mind. I almost always stick to my guns in a debate because I truly believe I have factored all the info into my conclusion.

If I'm proven wrong, I've had no problem admitting as much over the years...but I don't do so prematurely.
Maybe it's time to start entertaining the possibility that you're just not very good at analyzing the data you collect yourself.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:49 AM   #729
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We could. The options aren't as slim as you'd think.



His demands can't be above value and there's no reason to move him. He's a top 10 LT...



Absolutely not. The season goes well enough you can get him signed or you let him go.

You have two options: A) Albert at LT and Rookie RT to be named for one year

or

B) Albert traded for a 2nd, his replacement drafted at 1.1 (with RT still a huge concern and the unknown of any rook coming in, at LT of all places, with a QB who takes a ton of sacks.)
His demands are more than Jake Long netted allegedly. If he would have agreed to that amount, he'd be a Chief.

I just don't see why you don't just cut bait now and take the pick if the plan is to play him this year but let him go next.

His value isn't going to be higher than what it was off last year.
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Branden Albert to visit Dolphins


Updated: April 18, 2013, 11:27 AM ET
By John Clayton | ESPN.com



The Kansas City Chiefs have given the Miami Dolphins permission to talk to left tackle Branden Albert to help facilitate a trade for a second-round choice, a source said.





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Albert, who lives in Miami, is expected to visit the Dolphins' facility in the next couple of days for a physical. His agent, Ron Slaven, has received permission by the Chiefs to talk contract with the Dolphins, but no other team.

Even though he signed his franchise tender, worth $9.82 million for 2013, Albert has skipped the Chiefs' voluntary offseason program. Albert has said he wants a long-term deal, and then took to Twitter to express his disapproval with the notion he might move to the right side.

"I want that long-term commitment," Albert told The NFL Network earlier this month. "But as you know in football, you don't have too much control of the situation. I want to play for the Chiefs, but I want that commitment long term."

If the Dolphins can work out something with Albert, they would give up one of their two second-round picks to make the trade.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.


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Old 04-18-2013, 09:51 AM   #731
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It's hilarious when people just prove my point for me, I know a 100% I could find many posts from last season with you crowing about "put Ricky in" without even bothering to look. "2-3 years ago", another lie for everyone to see.

Also nice dodge on my question, answer it? Wait I already know the answer is an emphatic "yes! at least that good".

Stop talking about me bringing up the past, GC is shitting his pants about Smith in THIS VERY THREAD, and I know I could find something about DMC probably from this week, but guarantee I could find one in the last month. Because he, much like you, is locked on and delusional and he "just knows".

You are a proven liar already, but I'll prove it again, you have not talked with Clay for "10+" years, you came with Stanzi and good lord, I along with
countless others, hope that you leave with him.

Send Dane some more FB friend requests already.
the only reason I ever posted for Stanzi to play last year was because Cassel and Quinn were both TERRIBLE...whoever the third guy was should have been given a chance. It's sad you can't understand that.

If my sister was the third string qb last year, she should have played after Quinn was that bad. Understand that?

I came with Stanzi?

I came to this site in 2008 and posted the 5-6 years before that on another site that Clay was on as well and we interacted quite a bit there.

Again, you make more ignorant comments that show what a fool you are.

If your dumb ass was paying attention, you would have seen Dane admitted that I never sent him a FB friend request, so if you don't understand what went on keep your mouth .
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Branden Albert to visit Dolphins


Updated: April 18, 2013, 11:27 AM ET
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The Kansas City Chiefs have given the Miami Dolphins permission to talk to left tackle Branden Albert to help facilitate a trade for a second-round choice, a source said.







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Albert, who lives in Miami, is expected to visit the Dolphins' facility in the next couple of days for a physical. His agent, Ron Slaven, has received permission by the Chiefs to talk contract with the Dolphins, but no other team.

Even though he signed his franchise tender, worth $9.82 million for 2013, Albert has skipped the Chiefs' voluntary offseason program. Albert has said he wants a long-term deal, and then took to Twitter to express his disapproval with the notion he might move to the right side.

"I want that long-term commitment," Albert told The NFL Network earlier this month. "But as you know in football, you don't have too much control of the situation. I want to play for the Chiefs, but I want that commitment long term."

If the Dolphins can work out something with Albert, they would give up one of their two second-round picks to make the trade.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.


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Looking at what has happened lately with teams picking up QB's, unless Philly drafts Geno he proabably isnt going top 10 and then its a long fall from there.
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Branden Albert to visit Dolphins


Updated: April 18, 2013, 11:27 AM ET
By John Clayton | ESPN.com



The Kansas City Chiefs have given the Miami Dolphins permission to talk to left tackle Branden Albert to help facilitate a trade for a second-round choice, a source said.





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Albert, who lives in Miami, is expected to visit the Dolphins' facility in the next couple of days for a physical. His agent, Ron Slaven, has received permission by the Chiefs to talk contract with the Dolphins, but no other team.

Even though he signed his franchise tender, worth $9.82 million for 2013, Albert has skipped the Chiefs' voluntary offseason program. Albert has said he wants a long-term deal, and then took to Twitter to express his disapproval with the notion he might move to the right side.

"I want that long-term commitment," Albert told The NFL Network earlier this month. "But as you know in football, you don't have too much control of the situation. I want to play for the Chiefs, but I want that commitment long term."

If the Dolphins can work out something with Albert, they would give up one of their two second-round picks to make the trade.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.


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Looking at what has happened lately with teams picking up QB's, unless Philly drafts Geno he proabably isnt going top 10 and then its a long fall from there.
Bullshit. He'll fall to 8 and the Bills will jump at the chance to take him.
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