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Old 05-23-2013, 12:30 AM   #2866
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Yeah, you first try to force LeBron into a jump shot (and if not, at least it will be a contested two at the basket with a foul/two shots being the most likely outcome). Doing what they did all but ensured a layup for him both times.

You just rarely see coaching decisions both as poor and impactful as this one was. I was laughing my ass off seeing Hibbert pulled both times because I knew exactly what LeBron was going to do given the opportunity. Just unconscionably bad stuff.
Everybody's acting like Indiana's D was just standing around. Lebron made one hell of read and an INSANELY quick drive in 2.2 seconds. When was the last time you saw anybody drive to the basket and lay it up with 2 seconds left? 99% of the time that's going to be a jumper.

Why? Because most people aren't robots from the future sent to destroy our concepts of basketball.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:36 AM   #2867
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LeBron James with the ball in his hands and shooters all around him is never a good thing, but it becomes even worse when you take out your best defender and rim protector out of the game.


A great move. Both at the end were, that's just what the guy does. But Vogel played right into Spoelstra's hands by taking Hibbert out of the game and allowing LeBron to get to the basket freely.
I see what you're saying, but almost everybody in the world there is thinking, don't give up a wide open jumper, and there's absolutely no way in hell Spoelstra's going to have the guy Hibbert's guarding be anywhere near the rim.

So either, Lebron was getting to the basket regardless, or somebody was getting a wide open shot.
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:11 AM   #2868
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I see what you're saying, but almost everybody in the world there is thinking, don't give up a wide open jumper, and there's absolutely no way in hell Spoelstra's going to have the guy Hibbert's guarding be anywhere near the rim.

So either, Lebron was getting to the basket regardless, or somebody was getting a wide open shot.
I know which one I'm choosing if I'm Vogel.

The other thing that hasn't been discussed, and it's a small but important point, is that George is used to having Hibbert behind him. He can overplay or be half a step slow because the the guy with the ball knows even if he gets by George, he'll have Hibbert to deal with. George was a half step slow on that last play, and he didn't have Hibbert to clean up behind him.
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:24 AM   #2869
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I know which one I'm choosing if I'm Vogel.

The other thing that hasn't been discussed, and it's a small but important point, is that George is used to having Hibbert behind him. He can overplay or be half a step slow because the the guy with the ball knows even if he gets by George, he'll have Hibbert to deal with. George was a half step slow on that last play, and he didn't have Hibbert to clean up behind him.
I think we're on the same page... I'm saying regardless of if hibbert's in or not, the paint is going to be open, because hibbert's guy is going to draw him out.

As for the george defense, he wasn't a half step slow, that was a quick as shit move based on feel by Lebron. It's not like he turned around and saw the court before he made the drive. Paul had no chance because he thought Lebron was going to catch and probably rise up for a turnaround J. The more I think about it, holy shit, that's one hell of a play by Lebron. Kobe would've probably airballed a triple clutch fadeaway falling to his right.
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Old 05-23-2013, 05:49 AM   #2870
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:06 AM   #2871
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I think we're on the same page... I'm saying regardless of if hibbert's in or not, the paint is going to be open, because hibbert's guy is going to draw him out.

As for the george defense, he wasn't a half step slow, that was a quick as shit move based on feel by Lebron. It's not like he turned around and saw the court before he made the drive. Paul had no chance because he thought Lebron was going to catch and probably rise up for a turnaround J. The more I think about it, holy shit, that's one hell of a play by Lebron. Kobe would've probably airballed a triple clutch fadeaway falling to his right.
But LeBron doesn't have a direct line to the basket if Paul doesn't have him slightly overplayed. Not disputing it was a great play.
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:25 AM   #2872
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What can’t LeBron James do?

Score 30 points? Check.

Triple-double? No problem.

Game winner at the buzzer? Sure.

LeBron is the first player in NBA postseason history with a triple-double and a buzzer-beater game winner in the same game.

Magic never did it. Jordan never did it. Bird never did it. Not even Oscar or Wilt. Only LeBron.

Not too long ago, the discussion was about how LeBron wasn’t clutch. That no longer seems to be a discussion.

Since LeBron came into the league in 2003-04, nobody in the NBA has made more game-tying and go-ahead shots in the final 24 seconds of playoff games than LeBron, who is 7-of-16 on those shots. His 43.8 field goal percentage on those clutch shots ranks the best in the NBA since his rookie season among players with at least 10 attempts. The league average is 28.3 percent on those shots.

Along with his buzzer-beater layup to defeat the Pacers in Game 1 of the Eastern Conference finals, LeBron also made a go-ahead layup with just under 11 seconds remaining in overtime.

The buzzer-beater was LeBron’s first game winner in the final 10 seconds of a playoff game since his buzzer-beater against the Magic in Game 2 of the 2009 Eastern Conference finals.

Coincidentally, that shot came exactly four years ago to the day -– May 22, 2009.

The last time any NBA player made a buzzer-beater to win a playoff game was Paul Pierce for the Celtics in 2010 against the Heat.

LeBron and Ralph Sampson are the only players in NBA history with at least 30 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists and three blocks in a playoff game, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

Sampson did it in 1986 for the Rockets against the Nuggets. Blocks became an official statistic in 1973-74.

Since the 2006 postseason, a player has had a playoff triple-double with at least 30 points four times. All four of those players are named LeBron James.

The last player other than LeBron to accomplish that feat was Steve Nash, for the Suns in 2005 against the Mavericks.

LeBron and Oscar Robertson are the only players in NBA history with at least 30 points, 10 rebounds and 10 assists in a playoff game four times, according to Elias. LeBron has done it four times, while Robertson has done it eight times.

LeBron now has nine career postseason triple-doubles, which ties him with Wilt Chamberlain for fifth on the all-time list, according to Elias. Only Magic Johnson (30), Jason Kidd (11), Rajon Rondo (10) and Larry Bird (10) have more.
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Final 24 Secs. of 4th Qtr/OT Since 2003-04
LeBron James	7-16
Kobe Bryant	5-17
Kevin Durant	5-12
Dirk Nowitzki	5-12
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LeBron James	43.8	7-16
Kevin Durant	41.7	5-12
Dirk Nowitzki	41.7	5-12
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I think we're on the same page... I'm saying regardless of if hibbert's in or not, the paint is going to be open, because hibbert's guy is going to draw him out.

As for the george defense, he wasn't a half step slow, that was a quick as shit move based on feel by Lebron. It's not like he turned around and saw the court before he made the drive. Paul had no chance because he thought Lebron was going to catch and probably rise up for a turnaround J. The more I think about it, holy shit, that's one hell of a play by Lebron. Kobe would've probably airballed a triple clutch fadeaway falling to his right.

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I don't understand why Lebron think it's a slight if someone suggests that he should play PF, hell Elgin Baylor had a pretty successful career and his career numbers aren't too shabby. IMO, Lebron should play the post more and he'll be more dominate than he is now.
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I used to love the NBA but it's getting ridiculous.

Btw, for a vet, Ray Allen is a mental midget.

And LeBron with the 3 steps and no call.
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