Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-17-2013, 11:35 PM  
-King- -King- is online now
▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓
 
-King-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Casino cash: $100266
****OFFICIAL 2013 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD****

2012-2013 NBA Champions:

Last edited by -King-; 06-22-2013 at 02:22 PM..
Posts: 36,969
-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 12:48 PM   #7141
'Hamas' Jenkins 'Hamas' Jenkins is offline
Wood Drastically Underest-
 
'Hamas' Jenkins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $191523
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER View Post
Disagree completely until he's a better jump shooter and better in the post.

I'd put him top 10 or 15, though.
He increased his FG% in six straight years. He shot 56.5% from the floor this year and 40% from three.

For comparison, if you exclude LeBron's rookie year, Kobe Bryant's best FG% is worse than LeBron's worst.

LeBron's career FG% is better than Dirk's, and he's a better jump shooter than Jordan ever was.
__________________
A great shot is when you pull it off. A smart shot is when you don't have the guts to try.
Posts: 56,291
'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 12:49 PM   #7142
BigCatDaddy BigCatDaddy is offline
Kicking Ass and Chewing Bubble
 
BigCatDaddy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: St. Joseph
Casino cash: $1053185
Quote:
Originally Posted by LoneWolf View Post
His skills are top 5. The only thing he's lacking to be considered the GOAT is longevity.
He has the ability to get himself up there, yes.
__________________
"I voiced my opinion and announced I was forced to suck my babysitter's son's cock" - Red Guerilla (BlackBob) (Now known as CallMeSquidward).
Posts: 11,362
BigCatDaddy threw an interception on a screen pass.BigCatDaddy threw an interception on a screen pass.BigCatDaddy threw an interception on a screen pass.BigCatDaddy threw an interception on a screen pass.BigCatDaddy threw an interception on a screen pass.BigCatDaddy threw an interception on a screen pass.BigCatDaddy threw an interception on a screen pass.BigCatDaddy threw an interception on a screen pass.BigCatDaddy threw an interception on a screen pass.BigCatDaddy threw an interception on a screen pass.BigCatDaddy threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 12:59 PM   #7143
Douche Baggins Douche Baggins is online now
welp
 
Douche Baggins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $10225590
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins View Post
He increased his FG% in six straight years. He shot 56.5% from the floor this year and 40% from three.

For comparison, if you exclude LeBron's rookie year, Kobe Bryant's best FG% is worse than LeBron's worst.

LeBron's career FG% is better than Dirk's, and he's a better jump shooter than Jordan ever was.
Yes, he's definitely improved.

Part of the reason he struggled at times during the Finals though was because he Spurs basically dared him to shoot open jumpers from midrange...and he failed to connect.

Kobe would have hit those. Dirk for sure.
Posts: 162,948
Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 01:00 PM   #7144
notorious notorious is offline
I Lay Wood for a Living
 
notorious's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Who knows?
Casino cash: $1824
He buried a lot of those mid-rangers when it counted the most.
Posts: 29,146
notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 01:03 PM   #7145
Douche Baggins Douche Baggins is online now
welp
 
Douche Baggins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $10225590
Quote:
Originally Posted by notorious View Post
He buried a lot of those mid-rangers when it counted the most.
Yes, the jump shooting improvement in Game 7 was remarkable.

Very impressive.

If LeBron could consistently be that guy, wow. He wouldn't even need to rely on a missed Kawhi Leonard FT or a bailout from Ray Allen ever again!
Posts: 162,948
Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 02:05 PM   #7146
unnecessary drama unnecessary drama is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Nov 2012
Casino cash: $0
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy View Post
It's way too early to be talking top 5. He'll need to sustain a high level of play and pick up another 2-3 titles as the leader of whatever team he is on. Then you can discuss being in the top 5.
way too early? He has 4 times as many MVP's as Kobe Bryant. He is by far the best player in the NBA. The 2nd best player isn't even close.

and this is a league that is the first few generations of the 'Michael Jordan effect'

Meaning every single one of these stars grew up idolizing and wanting to be Michael Jordan...and they played basketball every freaking free second of the day...

People try and tell me 'the league isn't as talented anymore' which is total bullshit. The talent in the NBA right now is the best it has ever been and it is FAR BETTER than the talent during the Jordan era.

People confuse talent and fundamentals. Yes, back in the Jordan era all of those players were fundamentally sound team players. The game has changed.

I have news for you...LeBron is the most talented basketball player to ever lace up a pair of shoes and this is coming from a HUGE Michael Jordan mark.

The Kobe fans, who seem to be the ones that hate LeBron the most, need to get over it. Kobe never was and never could have been what LeBron has been. He just didn't have the talent. That's not a bash, that's just a truth.
Posts: 7,860
unnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Cassel
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 02:08 PM   #7147
Douche Baggins Douche Baggins is online now
welp
 
Douche Baggins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $10225590
So Kevin Durant isn't close to LeBron? BS.
Posts: 162,948
Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 02:18 PM
unnecessary drama
This message has been deleted by unnecessary drama. Reason: wrong thread
Old 06-22-2013, 02:27 PM   #7148
unnecessary drama unnecessary drama is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Nov 2012
Casino cash: $0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER View Post
So Kevin Durant isn't close to LeBron? BS.
No. He's not.

Not at all.

He is the 2nd best player in the NBA though. I'll give you that. And he's fantastic.
Posts: 7,860
unnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Casselunnecessary drama < Cassel
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 02:37 PM   #7149
Douche Baggins Douche Baggins is online now
welp
 
Douche Baggins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $10225590
Kevin Durant has only been in the league six years.

I'll take KD over 2008 LeBron.
Posts: 162,948
Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.Douche Baggins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 02:50 PM   #7150
Rudy lost the toss Rudy lost the toss is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Mar 2003
Casino cash: $36430
KD is about as close to his ceiling as a 24 year old can be. He'll be in the league a long time and is a HOF player, but he'll never be LeBron.
Posts: 7,926
Rudy lost the toss would the whole thing.Rudy lost the toss would the whole thing.Rudy lost the toss would the whole thing.Rudy lost the toss would the whole thing.Rudy lost the toss would the whole thing.Rudy lost the toss would the whole thing.Rudy lost the toss would the whole thing.Rudy lost the toss would the whole thing.Rudy lost the toss would the whole thing.Rudy lost the toss would the whole thing.Rudy lost the toss would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 03:04 PM   #7151
LoneWolf LoneWolf is offline
BAMF
 
LoneWolf's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Wichita
Casino cash: $33938
Quote:
Originally Posted by unnecessary drama View Post
People confuse talent and fundamentals. Yes, back in the Jordan era all of those players were fundamentally sound team players. The game has changed.
Has the game changed or have the players begun to care more about looking good on SportCenter to focus on learning the fundamentals of the game?
__________________
2013 Adopt A Chief: Dwayne Bowe #82
Posts: 3,910
LoneWolf 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.LoneWolf 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.LoneWolf 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.LoneWolf 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.LoneWolf 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.LoneWolf 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.LoneWolf 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.LoneWolf 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.LoneWolf 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.LoneWolf 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.LoneWolf 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 03:46 PM   #7152
ChiefsCountry ChiefsCountry is offline
MVP
 
ChiefsCountry's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lake of the Ozarks
Casino cash: $662786
Players are just more talented. Hell I played on a high school team with 4 guys who could dunk easy. We all had Jordan's moves down. Now take the true elite athletes who can do even more and its even better. Hootie is pretty spot on with his analysis.
Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 26,241
ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 04:19 PM   #7153
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $121692
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry View Post
Players are just more talented. Hell I played on a high school team with 4 guys who could dunk easy. We all had Jordan's moves down. Now take the true elite athletes who can do even more and its even better. Hootie is pretty spot on with his analysis.
Posted via Mobile Device
It's a different game. Most teams played like the Spurs in the 90's. Players are bigger and faster, but I don't necessarily agree that they are that much more talented. Flashier, maybe. But the 90's was a tremendous mix between team basketball and talent.

90's Point guard was more like John Stockton (great passer and outstanding ballhandler. Very high bball IQ). Today it's Derrick Rose (slasher who looks to drive first, pass second)

90's Shooting Guard and Small Forwards were more like Joe Dumars and Pippen (outstanding defender and solid scorers). Today, they are more like Harden (pure scorers, average defenders... though this position is evolving to become better at defense)

Power Forwards of yesterday are similar to those of today.

Centers... 90's era was far better. Today, teams seem to value Centers who can drift to the outside, or they are one-dimensional post players (below average scorers, great defenders and rebounders). The 90's was a dominant era for Centers.
Posts: 18,911
chiefzilla1501 is too fat/Omaha.chiefzilla1501 is too fat/Omaha.chiefzilla1501 is too fat/Omaha.chiefzilla1501 is too fat/Omaha.chiefzilla1501 is too fat/Omaha.chiefzilla1501 is too fat/Omaha.chiefzilla1501 is too fat/Omaha.chiefzilla1501 is too fat/Omaha.chiefzilla1501 is too fat/Omaha.chiefzilla1501 is too fat/Omaha.chiefzilla1501 is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 04:26 PM   #7154
Mavericks Ace Mavericks Ace is offline
Snoopy
 
Mavericks Ace's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Wisconsin
Casino cash: $58323
LeBron, and then everyone else, including Durant. You could even make a case that at this point, that Carmelo is considered better than Durant. Durant showed how much he needs a number two when he lost Westbrook.

Now, the LeBron, Jordan comparison. I refuse to get into it. There are no winners, and honestly, you cant even compare their careers until LeBron is done and gone, but to be honest, if he hadn't taken 93, and 94 off to play baseball, there would of been no comparisons. He probably then would of ended up passing Kareem as the all time leading scorer, and had a chance to help the bulls to win 8 straight titles.

Jordan as a competitor, is the best basketball player I have ever seen. I was born in '79. Lebron has more natural ability than anyone I have ever seen. He is as complete a player from size, skill, and athleticism, as I can remember, and when all is said and done, he will be on the Mt Rushmore of the NBA, and will go down as one of the top 5 players in NBA history.
__________________
Nominated for NOOB of the year. Didn't win!!!
Loser of MANY Debates.
Consistent. Always Consistent.

Im ADOPTING ALEX SMITH AS MY CHIEF FOR NEXT SEASON DAMMITT.
Posts: 8,607
Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2013, 04:27 PM   #7155
Mavericks Ace Mavericks Ace is offline
Snoopy
 
Mavericks Ace's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Wisconsin
Casino cash: $58323
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry View Post
Players are just more talented. Hell I played on a high school team with 4 guys who could dunk easy. We all had Jordan's moves down. Now take the true elite athletes who can do even more and its even better. Hootie is pretty spot on with his analysis.
Posted via Mobile Device
Very great points. The amount of camps, and training that is now involved, and how early these kids are getting seriously into this stuff, is miles ahead of when even I went to High school.... Great post by you.
__________________
Nominated for NOOB of the year. Didn't win!!!
Loser of MANY Debates.
Consistent. Always Consistent.

Im ADOPTING ALEX SMITH AS MY CHIEF FOR NEXT SEASON DAMMITT.
Posts: 8,607
Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Mavericks Ace is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.