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Old 04-19-2013, 12:01 PM  
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2 guys shut down a city

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Old 04-20-2013, 11:03 AM   #166
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It just allows them to take more rights. It's slowing coming.
...government enables immorality, immorality enables crisis, crisis enables government.

and the beat goes on....
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:05 AM   #167
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:09 AM   #168
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It's my understanding the whole city was shut down. Why not lockdown a perimeter and let the rest of the city operate with cops on alert and out in public and an armed citizenry? you know, working together and carrying on with their business in the face of the threat. This whole idea that the citizens are helpless and stripping them of their rights by ordering them to shelter is BS. We are all targets including the cops and the media.
I heard last night that parts of the city far enough away from Watertown people were out and about.

And I believe the only reason why they shut down most of the city was to keep him from escaping.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:11 AM   #169
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I heard last night that parts of the city far enough away from Watertown people were out and about.
I hope thats right. The media has not reported it like that though.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:12 AM   #170
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If those in this country cannot obey the laws of this country while enjoying our hospitality on a visa, then yes, they should be asked to leave.

Asking foreigners to obey our laws while in this country is not as unreasonable as you make it sound.
I don't support deportation under current policy because our ridiculous procedures make it too damn expensive (I would support if the US worked as it should and deportations were more immediate). Do you realize how much this would cost if we followed this process under our current system?

But more than anything... I'm scratching my head at what point Pete was trying to make, as if it was some sort of "a-ha" that a domestic violence crime should predict mass murder.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:14 AM   #171
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I hope thats right. The media has not reported it like that though.
I wonder why the media would sensationalize what was going on in Boston?
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:15 AM   #172
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I hope thats right. The media has not reported it like that though.
Here is a link from BEP's boyfriends website

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Old 04-20-2013, 11:22 AM   #173
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2 guys with home cookware paralyzed a city because they launched an attack where there wasn't surveillance or security to stop it. And no, the paralysis was largely due to fear that this could happen again and because the killers were still at large, a hell of a lot more so than because Boston asked the citizens to stay at home.
Want to clarify that before I comment because I don't think that's what you meant to say. Either way it proves the point a few of us are trying to make. If you stayed home in fear then the terrorists won. If the Cops out the city on lockdown over 2 guys, the terrorists won.

That's the entire point of terrorism. Thus my saying that to bend to it's will, even for a few days, gives other terrorist groups encouragment to a degree that they can be effective with minmal effort.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:23 AM   #174
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I heard last night that parts of the city far enough away from Watertown people were out and about.

And I believe the only reason why they shut down most of the city was to keep him from escaping.
well what I heard was the city was shutdown because the resources being dedicated to the manhunt would not be available for others so they wanted people to stay home to reduce the workload of the resources being put out to look for the bad guy.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:24 AM   #175
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I don't support deportation under current policy because our ridiculous procedures make it too damn expensive (I would support if the US worked as it should and deportations were more immediate). Do you realize how much this would cost if we followed this process under our current system?

But more than anything... I'm scratching my head at what point Pete was trying to make, as if it was some sort of "a-ha" that a domestic violence crime should predict mass murder.
It should not cost as much as it does. Once a conviction occurs, then deportation should be done. Seems simple....must be another example of government over complicating a simple procedure, thus driving up the cost exponentially.

I cannot speak for pete, but I think the point was that if the bombers had been deported for their previous crimes, then they would not have been at the marathon in the first place.

Immigration policy and procedures need a complete overhaul, and need to be redone from the ground up. A combination of better border security in the South, better immigration standards that would prevent those that should not be allowed in into this country. and a simpler, streamlined, less expensive process for immigration would work wonders on the problem.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:24 AM   #176
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I wonder why the media would sensationalize what was going on in Boston?
The media is the biggest culprit in all of this. Don't get mke started on our sick, dimented media
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:25 AM   #177
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So I didn't read the thread....

I kinda thought the martial law was a nice glimpse into our eventual future.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:25 AM   #178
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Her man lives in Florida. He's not a Bostonian
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:26 AM   #179
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I don't support deportation under current policy because our ridiculous procedures make it too damn expensive (I would support if the US worked as it should and deportations were more immediate). Do you realize how much this would cost if we followed this process under our current system?

But more than anything... I'm scratching my head at what point Pete was trying to make, as if it was some sort of "a-ha" that a domestic violence crime should predict mass murder.
Point is if they were deported as the probably should have been they wouldn't have been here to blow people up. Scratch your head on that one.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:37 AM   #180
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The media is the biggest culprit in all of this. Don't get mke started on our sick, dimented media
You should start a thread on that now that this one has proven to be total bullshit.
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