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Old 04-20-2013, 12:19 PM  
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Homosexual Activist Admits True Purpose of Battle is to Destroy Marriage

Homosexual Activist Admits True Purpose of Battle is to Destroy Marriage
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Even knowing that there are radicals in all movements, doesn’t lessen the startling admission recently by lesbian journalist Masha Gessen. On a radio show she actually admits that homosexual activists are lying about their radical political agenda. She says that they don’t want to access the institution of marriage; they want to radically redefine and eventually eliminate it.

Here is what she recently said on a radio interview:


“It’s a no-brainer that (homosexual activists) should have the right to marry, but I also think equally that it’s a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist. …(F)ighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we are going to do with marriage when we get there — because we lie that the institution of marriage is not going to change, and that is a lie.

The institution of marriage is going to change, and it should change. And again, I don’t think it should exist. And I don’t like taking part in creating fictions about my life. That’s sort of not what I had in mind when I came out thirty years ago.

I have three kids who have five parents, more or less, and I don’t see why they shouldn’t have five parents legally… I met my new partner, and she had just had a baby, and that baby’s biological father is my brother, and my daughter’s biological father is a man who lives in Russia, and my adopted son also considers him his father. So the five parents break down into two groups of three… And really, I would like to live in a legal system that is capable of reflecting that reality, and I don’t think that’s compatible with the institution of marriage.”


(Source: http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/...arried/4058506)


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Old 04-21-2013, 02:47 PM   #76
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Nice logical fallacy there diddy. Another bully at the level of thought, when someone has a difference of opinion.
You sound like Westboro folks now.
Or it could be a joke.....
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:50 PM   #77
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Nice deflection...as if anyone supports that on either side. That's not an agenda per se though. That's just the increasingly low standard of ethics.
The other is to indoctrinate other people's children to accept progressive values.
I'm not sure how he deflected. You were the one who brought up gay teachers and framed it in a negative light. He simply reminded you that it is a 2 way street.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:41 PM   #78
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Perhaps they're no happier being stuck in the same boat with gun-haters than I am being joined at the hip to the bible thumpers. About all you can do in American politics at this point is pick one thing you care about and then hold your nose.

Politics is about building coalitions, and obviously there's no such thing as a "single issue voter" even if you wish that were true. You need the GOP to build a large enough tent to protect that 1 issue you value, and if it cannot then your 1 issue goes bye-bye.


I'm just taken aback by your casual dismissal of folks who are giving you your right to your guns. Because they are. And you know it. You know gun voters can't ever go it alone. (NRA only has 400k members as it is). If the people you dislike leave, the GOP dies and all you'll be left with are huge numbers of folks wanting your guns.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:44 PM   #79
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It is in the interest of me as an American and as someone who isn't a narrow minded asshole that friends and people in my community be afforded the same rights that I enjoy. .

In other words, "You're right Prison. I don't personally benefit at all."
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:45 PM   #80
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In other words, "You're right Prison. I don't personally benefit at all."
If by other words you mean completely different words that are different than the intent of the words I used.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:47 PM   #81
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Come on, patteeu, there are many conservatives that share that opinion about the gay movement. I mean it's not like it's a movement of freedom where the state holds no opinion on marriage but allows families to instruct their children in the own values, or people to have their own personal opinion about it. It's mostly a cultural Marxist movement by some. Marx did, afterall, want to destroy marriage.

We tried Patteu's way: tax cuts, deregulation, and his comedic regurgitation of the whole "We're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here" laugher. And now the GOP is fractured and dormant.



His way failed. His way garnered no converts. So excuse me while I chuckle about his judgment on who is (and is not) worthy of being conservative. His way leads straight to the political graveyard.
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Dude, your homophobia is unhealthy. You don't have the right to dictate your moral beliefs on others. Just let it go.

Golly, that's been my exact argument all along. You don't have the right to dictate your moral beliefs on me. You should let it go.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:54 PM   #83
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Golly, that's been my exact argument all along. You don't have the right to dictate your moral beliefs on me. You should let it go.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:55 PM   #84
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This isn't about what you said. You and I are apparently interpreting the point of this thread differently. Prison Bitch could easily clarify, but he prefers to play coy instead. My interpretation is that he's suggesting that a large fraction, if not a majority, of same-sex-marriage-seeking homosexuals agree with the militant activist in the OP.
Well, I simply read the article and I thought it was clear with the word "activist."
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Well, I simply read the article and I thought it was clear with the word "activist."
You'd think that if that was all this thread was about, Prison Bitch wouldn't be afraid to clarify that point.
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Politics is about building coalitions, and obviously there's no such thing as a "single issue voter" even if you wish that were true. You need the GOP to build a large enough tent to protect that 1 issue you value, and if it cannot then your 1 issue goes bye-bye.


I'm just taken aback by your casual dismissal of folks who are giving you your right to your guns. Because they are. And you know it. You know gun voters can't ever go it alone. (NRA only has 400k members as it is). If the people you dislike leave, the GOP dies and all you'll be left with are huge numbers of folks wanting your guns.
Boy, you must have really hated this comment, since you saw fit to quote and respond to it twice.

It's not like I spend my weekends in Wrigleyville or anything, but I do know some gay people. I can't remember any of them being overtly anti-gun, and it's not like I'm shy about telling people I shoot. Frankly, I'd rather get them out to the range and packing than crush them.

And yes, I realize politics is about coalitions. I'd rather have a coalition of SANE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO **** WITH EVERYBODY, but sadly that doesn't seem possible, so I appear to be stuck with you. And while I recognize the reality of it, I certainly don't have to like it. Nor do I.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:02 PM   #87
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Gay marriage is going to destroy PB's marriage. He and his wife have a really strong commitment to each other, obviously.
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I was planning on getting married this October; but I've told my fiancee that I've read this thread and I feel like the gays are definitely going to ruin that for us. Guess the wedding is off.
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Fraz I figured you understood my main point about the coalition building and your post proves that. (I did chuckle a bit how you claim not to encounter any anti-gun flack from your gay associates. I'd be floored if you said you DID encounter it.)


I know that you know gays don't like guns. I can search for polls but someone of your intelligence would know that intuitively. But even if they were totally agnostic on the issue they still vote heavily for pols who do hate guns. That makes them complicitly guilty of attacking your rights no?
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I was planning on getting married this October; but I've told my fiancee that I've read this thread and I feel like the gays are definitely going to ruin that for us. Guess the wedding is off.
You were going to get married this October. But then you found out gay marriage won't be law by then and the homophobes are definitely going to ruin that for you. Guess the wedding is off.



(As hilariously dumb as that sounds, Brad Pitt actually said just that in an interview last year)
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