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Old 04-21-2013, 06:22 PM  
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:18 AM   #181
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:32 AM   #182
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I'm looking for a stronger argument out of you. Why can't you bring up points such as these posters ( or even the lead article)?

Now I ask you, why wouldn't a single warrant for all the homes-apartments in the 20-block area be impossible on a rush basis? ( To my knowledge these can be done rapidly....someone can inform me otherwise.)

Because it's an unnecessary waste of time and busy work?

Seriously, there are a host of public safety / exigent circumstances cases that make it pretty clear that no warrant is needed.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:36 AM   #183
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Irrelevant to my point.

They didn't find the guy in any of those homes—or anywhere via that method.
20/20 hindsight is always pretty accurate.

It sounds like you think a much better plan would have been for the police to sit on their asses and wait for someone to call them and tell them that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was hiding in a boat. What you fail to understand is that by shutting everything down and doing a house to house search, they put pressure on Tsarnaev. The end result was they captured him and nobody else got injured or killed.

Sounds like a pretty good outcome to me, notwithstanding the people who have decided to get their panties in a bunch about the searches.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:38 AM   #184
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I wouldn't say it makes me feel safer, but go ahead and look for the guy. I don't have anything to hide.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:47 AM   #185
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I wouldn't say it makes me feel safer, but go ahead and look for the guy. I don't have anything to hide.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:49 AM   #186
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:53 AM   #187
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:13 AM   #188
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20/20 hindsight is always pretty accurate.
Actually, some veteran investigators say it wasn't necessary as it took millions of eyes off the guy.
Remember a private citizen found him, when the "lockdown" was lifted.
BTW lockdown is a word used for prisons.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:16 AM   #189
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please take a poll of society and tell me that a house to house search in the neighborhood where a suspect is hiding , and has just shot a cop, carjacked someone and set off bombs, tried to run over cops, and been involved in a shootout is unreasonable.


also there could be more bombs out there...

It even turns out they were correct! they found him on private property in that area.
They knew he was in Watertwown so that area being secured is reasonable. But the homemade bombs they had, were used up that previous night. They had police chiefs giving the details last night.

I always thought reasonable meant there had to be suspicion of a crime. I see no reason why a warrant for a block of twenty houses could not have been.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:28 AM   #190
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Actually, some veteran investigators say it wasn't necessary as it took millions of eyes off the guy.Remember a private citizen found him, when the "lockdown" was lifted.
BTW lockdown is a word used for prisons.
And removed millions from harms way.

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other cop - "Wait don't shoot, there are civilians in the area!"

cop - "Oh no, the perp spotted us and has now taken the civilians hostage."
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:29 AM   #191
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They knew he was in Watertwown so that area being secured is reasonable. But the homemade bombs they had, were used up that previous night. They had police chiefs giving the details last night.

I always thought reasonable meant there had to be suspicion of a crime. I see no reason why a warrant for a block of twenty houses could not have been.
I had no idea the guys called the cops and told them that they were out of bombs. That was nice of them.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:37 AM   #192
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And removed millions from harms way.

cop - "Look there he is! Get him."

other cop - "Wait don't shoot, there are civilians in the area!"

cop - "Oh no, the perp spotted us and has now taken the civilians hostage."
Millions is conjecture, since he wasn't even in the actual city anymore. They had him narrowed down to Watertown.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:37 AM   #193
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I had no idea the guys called the cops and told them that they were out of bombs. That was nice of them.
Listen to the story...the details say what happened.

But again, I still say, we're in this position because of the politicians. Many of their hands are all over those bombs because of our FP. In the meantime, the same politicians are busy using this fear to steal even more liberties. The sheep will cheer it on too.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:41 AM   #194
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Millions is conjecture, since he wasn't even in the actual city anymore. They had him narrowed down to Watertown.
I just used millions because that is what you said. I am also sure that is too large though.

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Listen to the story...the details say what happened.

But again, I still say, we're in this position because of the politicians. Many of their hands are all over those bombs because of our FP.
So the cops knew that they were out of bombs before catching him? The bad guys told them this? The fact that he was out is completely irrevelant unless all the cops knew this for a fact while searching for him.
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I just used millions because that is what you said. I am also sure that is too large though.



So the cops knew that they were out of bombs before catching him? The bad guys told them this? The fact that he was out is completely irrevelant unless all the cops knew this for a fact while searching for him.
I answered you already. That's what the police said. My guess is that no more were used after a certain point. How many pressure cookers could he run with anyway?
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