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View Poll Results: Would you be comfortable with this in your neighborhood?
Yes. This makes me feel safer. 13 20.00%
No. This is a violation of the 4th Amendment 50 76.92%
America is taking it up the Gaz. 2 3.08%
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:22 PM  
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:59 AM   #211
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As far as I can tell no rules were broken, laws evaded, or even stretched in this case. The Constitution was not violated. There is nothing here that you can point to as evidence and say they are increasingly trying to take our freedoms or change the law.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:03 AM   #212
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Issues like this really bring out the hypocrites. I don't see how anyone can identify themselves as a conservative and support involuntary searches without a warrant. The end does not justify the means. We are a nation of laws, and even the government is bound by those laws. The 4th amendment is just as important as the second amendment.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:07 AM   #213
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As far as I can tell no rules were broken, laws evaded, or even stretched in this case. The Constitution was not violated. There is nothing here that you can point to as evidence and say they are increasingly trying to take our freedoms or change the law.
A another case of Battered Citizen Syndrome on display here.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:12 AM   #214
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Issues like this really bring out the hypocrites. I don't see how anyone can identify themselves as a conservative and support involuntary searches without a warrant. The end does not justify the means. We are a nation of laws, and even the government is bound by those laws. The 4th amendment is just as important as the second amendment.
Ya' know what else is so stoopid about it— they could have just as easily gotten such a warrant as they can execute the search at any time of day, any day of the week. Since the city was on alert already, don't see how they could not have reached an available judge quickly. The same searches could have then moved forward. Battered citizens are too battered to see this did not have to stop the searches.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:12 AM   #215
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A another case of Battered Citizen Syndrome on display here.
You always complain about the Constitution being attacked and our rights being taken away. If you want to do that you should probably find a different subject than this one. Either that or complain about the 4th itself.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:14 AM   #216
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You always complain about the Constitution being attacked and our rights being taken away. If you want to do that you should probably find a different subject than this one. Either that or complain about the 4th itself.
You do not tell me what to do. You are not an authority on my life or my choices. I will do whatever I want.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:15 AM   #217
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You do not tell me what to do. You are not an authority on my life or my choices. I will do whatever I want.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:16 AM   #218
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That's the reaction of someone who has Battered Citizen Syndrome too. The glee of insanity.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:20 AM   #219
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:25 AM   #220
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That's the reaction of someone who has Battered Citizen Syndrome too. The glee of insanity.
Based on the definition of insanity we are all so familiar with, anyone who has engaged in a conversation with you is insane.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:46 AM   #222
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Details have been released today describing the cops attempts to actually get a warrant:

"Magistrate Jones, we've pinpointed the suspected Boston Marathon bomber to a couple of neighborhoods in Watertown. We think he's armed, dangerous, and is likely to set off more bombs, killing and injuring more people than he did on Monday. As the whole nation is watching us find this guy, can we swing by your house to get you to sign off a warrant?"

"Oh golly molly. I just got in the bathroom. I'm about to shower. Can you call Williams?"

"Your honor, Magistrate Williams is really picky about his warrants. He demands them to be on legal size paper, and frankly, we're a little too damn busy to run to Staples and get some. All we have is standard size."

"Can you give me 45 minutes? I'm literally sitting on the edge of the tub in my underwear."

"Your honor, the entire Willow Park neighborhood might be destroyed in 20, 25 minutes. Could we hand it off to Mrs. Jones at your door to give to you?"

"I'm sorry, I've already started the water. Look, call Judge Henry. I'm sorry, I have a routine which corresponds very strictly with my digestive medication. Nobody wants to see that get off-track."
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:58 AM   #224
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That's the reaction of someone who has Battered Citizen Syndrome too. The glee of insanity.
When Charles Krauthammer coined the term "Bush Derangement Syndrome", it was a clever and effective way to characterize anyone who opposed Bush as being deranged. It was clever and effective because it was original.

Now everybody thinks they are just as clever when they put two words in front of "Syndrome" and use it to stereotype their opponents in an argument.

News flash: it's not clever any more, and it's not effective. It's just boring.

So by all means, please keep using it.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:03 PM   #225
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Sorry, I heard it on NPR. The discussion with Magistrate Williams was:

"Your Honorable Williams. We need you to help us get the Boston Marathon bomber. Yes. That one. Yes, the one that blew off your neighbor's niece's leg. Yes. Well, we have him pinpointed to a particular location, and we have a very strong reason to believe he is . . . Yes, that's what we need. What's that? Ah, no Your Honor. We only have standard size paper. Yes, I know that you always say 'Law is formality because justice demands order.' Yes, you've told me about your old law professor. You told me that he had passed away a couple of months ago. I'm sorry to hear about it. Things really are kind of grim these days. . . . Well, we had an order from Staples, but we thought they were going to drop it off. Turns out we had to pick it up. You want me to call Judge Henry? Okay, have a nice day."
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