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View Poll Results: Would you be comfortable with this in your neighborhood?
Yes. This makes me feel safer. 13 20.00%
No. This is a violation of the 4th Amendment 50 76.92%
America is taking it up the Gaz. 2 3.08%
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:22 PM  
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:54 PM   #241
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Ick. Yeah, I'm conflicted. I don't like seeing that (and I don't think anyone does), but this was an extraordinary situation.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:56 PM   #242
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Ick. Yeah, I'm conflicted. I don't like seeing that (and I don't think anyone does), but this was an extraordinary situation.
Extraordinary is not a word in the 4th Amendment and the exigent rule doesn't apply to extraordinary situations but to lack of time. There was time to get a warrant...that's what applies. They got one the very day of the bombings to search an apartment in Revere.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:57 PM   #243
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Wonder what woulda' happened if a few people had this at their door and resisted? We need an activist to bring a suit.
They even made non-suspects raise their hands as if they were criminals, when they knew what the guys looked like by then.

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Old 04-22-2013, 12:58 PM   #244
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I don't see any Exigency Rule or Extraordinary exceptions here:

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Old 04-22-2013, 12:59 PM   #245
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Extraordinary is not a word in the 4th Amendment and the exigent rule doesn't apply to extraordinary situations but to lack of time. There was time to get a warrant...that's what applies. They got one the very day of the bombings to search an apartment in Revere.
That's fine, but I wouldn't exactly call these searches "unreasonable" either.

And, I'll note the "an apartment" above. That's one, right?
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:00 PM   #246
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That's fine, but I wouldn't exactly call these searches "unreasonable" either.

And, I'll note the "an apartment" above. That's one, right?
Doesn't matter how many. They could have gotten a warrant to search a block of about 20 houses.

Unreasonable should be based on "no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause..."

May I ask what you don't understand about that line?
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:01 PM   #247
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I don't see any Exigency Rule or Extraordinary exceptions here:

I see the word "unreasonable." Does that mean anything to you?
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:02 PM   #248
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Doesn't matter how many. They could have gotten a warrant to search a block of about 20 houses.
How long does that take? The same as one house?
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How long does that take? The same as one house?
I covered it earlier in the thread. Read it. You pull this stunt all the time when you arrive later.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:03 PM   #250
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Unreasonable should be based on "no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause..."

May I ask what you don't understand about that line?
I understand it fine. Do you disagree that there was probable cause?
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I covered it earlier in the thread. Read it.
No thanks. Would someone else fill me in, please? Thanks.
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I fail to see how the slippery slope argument is not valid.
Because I don't see this happening with any frequency which would suggest a slop even exists.
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There isn't even any innuendo in the direction of a “compelling state interest” or “exigent circumstances" in the Fourth Amendment. It takes three years of law school to find such non-existent words.
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