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Old 04-23-2013, 01:42 PM  
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When 8th grade Jared Marcum got dressed for school on Thursday he says he had no idea that his pro-Second Amendment shirt would initiate what he calls a fight over his First Amendment rights.

"I never thought it would go this far because honestly I don't see a problem with this, there shouldn't be a problem with this," Jared said.

It was the image of a gun printed on Jared's t-shirt that sparked a dispute between a Logan Middle School teacher and Jared, that ended with Jared suspended, arrested and facing two charges, obstruction and disturbing the education process, on his otherwise spotless record.

Jared's father Allen Lardieri says he's angry he had to rush from work to pick his son up from jail over something he says was blown way out of proportion.

"I don't' see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a t-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri said.

(READ MORE: Questions remain unanswered for 8th grade student arrested over shirt)

The Logan County School District's dress code policy prohibits clothing that displays profanity, violence, discriminatory messages and more but nowhere in the document does it say anything about gun images.

"He did not violate any school policy," Lardieri reiterates. "He did not become aggressive."

Now, Lardieri says he's ready to fight until the situation is made right.

"I will go to the ends of the earth, I will call people, I will write letters, I will do everything in the legal realm to make sure this does not happen again," Lardieri said.

Logan City Police did confirm that Jared had been arrested and charged today.

13 news tried contacting the Logan County School District but has not heard anything back.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:31 PM   #181
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:31 PM   #182
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The first ones were cannons, and so had nothing to do with hunting. However, yes, their primary purpose was, and still is, to kill. They are weapons in the purest sense of the word; there's no doubt about that.
They're weapons, no doubt. However, to say their sole purpose is to kill is incorrect. Many people shoot targets without any intent to hunt or kill someone. There are plenty of people out there shooting competition, trap, skeet. Some firearms are works of art and will never be fired.

Out of all the handguns I own, only one has been used to kill (gophers). The others are for my enjoyment.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:19 PM   #183
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They're weapons, no doubt. However, to say their sole purpose is to kill is incorrect. Many people shoot targets without any intent to hunt or kill someone. There are plenty of people out there shooting competition, trap, skeet. Some firearms are works of art and will never be fired.

Out of all the handguns I own, only one has been used to kill (gophers). The others are for my enjoyment.
I didn't say 'sole'. I said 'primary', for exactly that reason.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:25 PM   #184
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I didn't say 'sole'. I said 'primary', for exactly that reason.
Point taken.
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:15 AM   #185
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A West Virginia teen who was arrested and suspended for wearing a National Rifle Association T-shirt to school returned to class Monday wearing the same shirt that got him into trouble.

Jared Marcum, 14, was joined by about 100 other students across Logan County who wore shirts with a similar gun rights theme in a show of support for free speech.

Ben White, the Charleston lawyer representing the Logan eighth-grader, said the Sons of the Second Amendment, a gun rights group, purchased and distributed the shirts.

Jared, a student at Logan Middle School, was arrested and suspended Thursday after he was pulled from a cafeteria line and told to remove or turn his shirt inside-out an order he refused.

“I’m still confused, thoroughly confused,” he told a local TV station. “The school didn’t even make a statement to the news agencies, much less myself.”

School officials told the eighth-grader Monday that his one-day suspension was appropriate because he was being disruptive.

Mr. White said Jared was exercising his right to free speech and did not disrupt anything.

Video evidence in the case, Mr. White said, indicates that the situation in the cafeteria deteriorated when a teacher raised his voice while confronting Jared. Other students jumped up on benches and began chanting Jared’s name.

“I think the disruption came from the teacher,” Mr. White said.

A police officer arrested Jared after he was sent to the school office and again refused to remove the shirt.

Mr. White said Jared was arrested on two charges of disrupting the educational process and obstructing an officer, but predicted those charges would be dropped.

The case has been turned over to the local juvenile prosecutor.

“My sense is that no charges will be imminent,” Mr. White said.

Jared’s stepfather, Allen Larieris, told The Associated Press that the teen was expressing his support for the Second Amendment right to bear arms by wearing the shirt, which he said did not violate the school’s dress code.

Logan County Schools’ dress code, which is posted on the school system’s website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco or drug product also is prohibited.

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Old 04-24-2013, 07:21 AM   #186
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If a shirt had this image, would you all be ok with kids wearing it to school?

Eazy E was gang affiliated. The t-shirt the kid is wearing isn't promoting sex, gangs, or violence. In fact he's encouraging to protect your rights. Schools teach the constitution and bill of rights don't they? unless I'm missing something I don't see what the kid did wrong.
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:26 AM   #187
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You don't think that would disturb a lot of students and teachers?
An NRA shirt in the midwest? Iz u serius cuz?
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:58 AM   #188
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It doesn't matter whether it's good or bad. What matters is it's violent. Using a gun is an act of violence. Whether it be for a good or bad purpose is completely irrelevant.

Similarly, a tornado is a "violent storm." It doesn't matter whether it's good or bad. All that matters is that it is destructive and causes death.

The person who invented a gun thought to himself, "I need something that is better than this dagger/stick. I need something that is going to quickly kill my enemies and my prey. I need something that can be really destructive."

A gun is inherently violent. This is not saying that humans don't do violence using a gun (or another type of instrument).

You're not going to convince me that a gun is not inherently violent. And I might not convince you that it is. That's fine.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:00 AM   #189
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Eazy E was gang affiliated. The t-shirt the kid is wearing isn't promoting sex, gangs, or violence. In fact he's encouraging to protect your rights. Schools teach the constitution and bill of rights don't they? unless I'm missing something I don't see what the kid did wrong.
...and the 21st amendment legalized liquor. Is it cool if he wears shirts promoting booze?

Seriously, don't ****ing go to school wearing a shirt with a picture of a gun on it if you're told not to.

Also, don't make a huge ordeal out of it if some kid wears a shirt with a picture of a gun on it trying to get a reaction.

Both sides of this are ****ing idiots. Stop defending either side. That kid has 50 other shirts he could have worn. He was fishing for victimization. People that do that sort of thing cause problems for everyone.

It's not like the right to wear shirts with pictures of guns on them to school is some worthy cause. Wear the shirt as soon as you leave school, and spare us all your phony outrage.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:52 AM   #193
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...and the 21st amendment legalized liquor. Is it cool if he wears shirts promoting booze?

Seriously, don't ****ing go to school wearing a shirt with a picture of a gun on it if you're told not to.

Also, don't make a huge ordeal out of it if some kid wears a shirt with a picture of a gun on it trying to get a reaction.

Both sides of this are ****ing idiots. Stop defending either side. That kid has 50 other shirts he could have worn. He was fishing for victimization. People that do that sort of thing cause problems for everyone.

It's not like the right to wear shirts with pictures of guns on them to school is some worthy cause. Wear the shirt as soon as you leave school, and spare us all your phony outrage.
He was never told not to....nowhere in the rules is that type of shirt prohibited. Once the teacher starts yelling and screaming about it, what do you expect a teenager to do? Of the two parties in the incident..the teenager acted like a typical teen...but the adults in the situation failed miserably at acting like the responsible adults they are supposed to be in that situation.

When I was in school, kids wore Budweiser t-shirts all the time. Spuds McKenzie was a big marketing tool for Bud, and it seems like everyone had a Spuds t-shirt in one form or another. I do not remember anyone ever getting sent home or arrested for it.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:16 AM   #195
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He was never told not to....nowhere in the rules is that type of shirt prohibited. Once the teacher starts yelling and screaming about it, what do you expect a teenager to do? Of the two parties in the incident..the teenager acted like a typical teen...but the adults in the situation failed miserably at acting like the responsible adults they are supposed to be in that situation.

When I was in school, kids wore Budweiser t-shirts all the time. Spuds McKenzie was a big marketing tool for Bud, and it seems like everyone had a Spuds t-shirt in one form or another. I do not remember anyone ever getting sent home or arrested for it.
The kid knew it was going to cause some trouble, he just didn't realize how much. My guess is there was some type of discussion prior and it was conveyed to him and the students they should wear that type of shirt. He pushed the boundaries and the teacher reacted ridiculous as well.

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