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Old 04-24-2013, 08:43 AM  
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Professor told students to stomp on paper with Jesus's name on it

A Florida Atlantic University student said he was suspended from class after he refused a professor’s directive to stomp on a piece of paper with the word “Jesus” written on it.

“I’m not going to be sitting in a class having my religious rights desecrated,” student Ryan Rotela told television station WPEC. “I truly see this as I’m being punished.”

Rotela, who is a devout Mormon, said the instructor in his Intercultural Communications class told the students to write the name “Jesus” on a sheet of paper. Then, they were told to put the paper on the floor.

“He had us all stand up and he said ‘Stomp on it,’” Rotela said. “I picked up the paper from the floor and put it right back on the table.

The young college student told the instructor, Deandre Poole, that the assignment was insulting and offensive.

“I said to the professor, ‘With all due respect to your authority as a professor, I do not believe what you told us to do was appropriate,’” Rotela said. ‘I believe it was unprofessional and I was deeply offended by what you told me to do...’”


Link:http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...475/page/full/

I wonder what the media reaction will be, if the word is not "Jesus" but "Mohammed".
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:27 AM   #46
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I wonder what was the discussion was and what point the professor was trying to get across?
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:31 AM   #47
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Don't know. But religion is not supposed to be in education to begin with....if we are going to outlaw prayer in schools, then stomping on Jesus should be a no no as well. (I know that this is a college, so the separation of church and state is a great deal more blurred, but you get the gist of what I am saying.)
Addressing your second sentence, this is a class about cultures. Religion is a part of cultures. No reason to not be able to talk about religion in that class.

And in this case in particular, if a student wants to stomp on the paper let them. If not, they have that right as well. I have my questions as to what happened after he objected and I doubt the teacher forced or threatened him into stomping on it.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:41 AM   #48
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:42 AM   #49
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Addressing your second sentence, this is a class about cultures. Religion is a part of cultures. No reason to not be able to talk about religion in that class.

And in this case in particular, if a student wants to stomp on the paper let them. If not, they have that right as well. I have my questions as to what happened after he objected and I doubt the teacher forced or threatened him into stomping on it.
Talking about religion in class is one thing. Doing an activity that appears to be blatantly sacrilegious is something else. It does not take much common sense to see that stomping on a picture of Jesus is going to offend Christians. What educational goal is accomplished by this? It does positively contribute to a cultural discussion...(it might if they actually bashed more than just Christian figureheads...that can open the door to discussions about tolerance of other cultures, but that did not appear to happen in this case.)


It is a class about cultures that seems to focus on Jesus bashing. If the class had been required to stomp on Mohammad, I am sure it would have made the news, and made bigger headlines than this incident did.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:45 AM   #50
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Addressing your second sentence, this is a class about cultures. Religion is a part of cultures. No reason to not be able to talk about religion in that class.

And in this case in particular, if a student wants to stomp on the paper let them. If not, they have that right as well. I have my questions as to what happened after he objected and I doubt the teacher forced or threatened him into stomping on it.
The student was clearly held to gunpoint while the professor told him "step on your precious God, do it, show him what you think of him"
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:49 AM   #51
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Talking about religion in class is one thing. Doing an activity that appears to be blatantly sacrilegious is something else. It does not take much common sense to see that stomping on a picture of Jesus is going to offend Christians. What educational goal is accomplished by this? It does positively contribute to a cultural discussion...(it might if they actually bashed more than just Christian figureheads...that can open the door to discussions about tolerance of other cultures, but that did not appear to happen in this case.)


It is a class about cultures that seems to focus on Jesus bashing. If the class had been required to stomp on Mohammad, I am sure it would have made the news, and made bigger headlines than this incident did.
It wasn't a picture. That is a pretty big difference than just the written name. The goal as stated is pretty clear in that they are wanting to discuss symbols as stated in the text from the book. It was supposed to get an emotional response from students.

Also, what would writing Mohammad and stepping on that do for someone who has no positive emotional reaction to it? Nothing. That is not nearly as challenging and defeats the whole purpose. Maybe they should have been instructed to write the name of their own personal religious leader. That would be more effective since all students of all faiths would be challenged to step on the name of whom they have their faith in.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:56 AM   #52
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That would be more effective since all students of all faiths would be challenged to step on the name of whom they have their faith in.
At a college? Probably most of then would write down OBAMA
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Addressing your second sentence, this is a class about cultures. Religion is a part of cultures. No reason to not be able to talk about religion in that class.

And in this case in particular, if a student wants to stomp on the paper let them. If not, they have that right as well. I have my questions as to what happened after he objected and I doubt the teacher forced or threatened him into stomping on it.
Too bad some people can't recognize that it shouldn't have been an assignment to begin with. It's completely inappropriate and in some places down here that professors new name would be "bait"
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