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Old 04-27-2013, 04:31 PM  
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Looks to me like the Chiefs plan on dropping the blade on the road grader ala' the 49ers
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:51 PM   #61
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You could almost say our WRs are better as a group than Reid had in Philly before TO arrived and they were winning 11, 12 games still.

James Thrash, Todd Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell.
With Donovan McNabb and in an NFL where you could jam and where he had Jim Johnson as his DC along with freakishly good secondaries.

Could not be a bigger apples/oranges comparison.
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:26 AM   #62
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:57 AM   #63
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Where did he beg for the SD job?
He was already lining up a coaching staff for the SD job before he even had an interview scheduled...

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/...-chargers-job/
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:13 AM   #64
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Alex Smith is like Matt Cassel

He must be protected by a running game, good Oline and surprise.

we need to be able to run the ball even when the defense is geared for it.

Smith will only pass when we chose to
I think Andy is to stubborn for that and really we can't just run,run, pass in today's NFL. We gotta be better than that.

These WR's gotta step up and help (and TE's) but mainly Baldwin. He has to give Bowe a legit guy across from him. If that happens, I think we will have a successful season. I'm expecting the D to be "epic"
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:21 AM   #65
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I bet we call plenty of 1st down pass plays. We can be a pass first team and still be balanced. That's what DV did. Pass to a lead and then increase the run as the game goes on.
If we do just that, it will help amazingly. Gotta keep the D off balance. Think how many times since '09 it looks like everyone knows what we are doing every play.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:22 AM   #66
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This is precisely why I was relieved that the Chargers didn't hire him when he was begging for the job.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:39 AM   #67
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Old 04-28-2013, 02:43 AM   #68
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18 TD, 3200-yard QBs don't go to Pro Bowls.
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18 or 19 td would be a 10% or 20% improvement on his 1.0 td per game average
These numbers, 18 and 3200 are not his highest rates of production. They weren't for 16 games, either. My point? When predicting a QBs numbers, we look at 16 games. In general, we can predict he'll be injured or that he'll be benched, fine, but that's not helpful in determining capabilities, etc. To go to a coach who passes considerably more, over a 16 games season, I'd expect more.

Just for sake of argument, here's Smith's outputs in yards and TDs if extrapolated to 16 games, in offenses that pass LESS often than Reid's offense (more passes = more TDs/INT/Yards). Parenthesis are numbers if adjusted for "quarters of play" not games. I will explain the rationale for each below.

2006: 2890 yards, 16 TDs, 16 INTs
2007: 2437 yards, 5 TDs, 11 INTs (2459 yards, 5 TDs, 5 INTs)
2009: 3418 yards, 26 TDs, 17 INTs (3581 yards, 27 TDs, 18 INTs)
2010: 3447 yards, 20 TDs, 14.5 INTs (3700 yards, 22 TDs, 16 INTs)
2011: 3144 yards, 17 TDs, 5 INTs
2012: 3088 yards, 23 TDs, 9 INTs (3270 yards, 24.5 TDs, 9 INTs)

I tried to be fair in calculations, here are my explanations.

2005: Left out because I don't think it's relevant. He was terrible, numbers can't express how bad.
2006: He played every snap (first Niners QB to do that), so no change here.
2007: I included this, though I think when 2/3 of the season you are playing with a torn throwing shoulder, it's not very probative. I extrapolated pre-torn shoulder in the parenthesis.
2009: He played one half of one game, so I adjusted it in the parenthesis.
2010: He missed one half of one game and was put in one quarter of another. Took the non-played quarters out for the parenthesis.
2011: Kaepernick played too little to adjust.
2012: He played one quarter and one half series (partial drive ending in his TD throw) in one game and threw one pass in another (with victory formation after that). That is 1.2 quarters rounded to two for compromise. I did not take out the Kaepernick plays in other games, though they did account for a bit over a quarter when you add them up. (22 QB pass or runs, not including handoffs.)

My point? He was on pace for 26-27 TDs in 2009 and 23-25 TDs in 2012. I would base my expectations on a number higher than 18.

The range of numbers in the last four years: 3000-3700 yards, 17-27 TDs, and 5-17 INTs. All over the place, but INTs are trending better.

Going by the last four years (pre and post Harbaugh) and an elevated number of pass attempts would lead to these numbers: 323-520, 62.1%, 3625 yards, 7.0 YPA, 24 TDs, 12 INTs, 88.7 rating.

Last Two Years: 334-520, 64.3%, 3828 yards, 24 TDs, 8 INTs, 95.3 rating.

520 was in the middle of Reid's average and Smith's max.

Note: I did these numbers awhile ago on another message board. Except for the first paragraph, I just copied and pasted a few posts together. Didn't mean to have such a long post nor did I spend such a long time on one post.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:23 AM   #69
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Guys, Andy Reid didn't come here to totally change the way he goes about the business of football. He's not going to turn into Marty Shottenheimer circa 1990. He's going to do what Andy Reid does, and he's going to bench any QB that can't get it done, just like he always has.
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Guys, Andy Reid didn't come here to totally change the way he goes about the business of football. He's not going to turn into Marty Shottenheimer circa 1990. He's going to do what Andy Reid does, and he's going to bench any QB that can't get it done, just like he always has.
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