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Old 04-28-2013, 08:17 PM  
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Bill Maher slams Boston police

Bill Maher called Boston police officers “unprofessional” on Friday for shooting at the boat where Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was hiding even though it turned out he was unarmed.

“I agree that we shouldn’t have given the kid his Miranda rights because he probably had information. We wanted to take him alive. We all agree with that.… there could’ve been bombs out there, there could’ve been an accomplice. So we wanted to take him alive. If you agree with that then what the cops did there was unprofessional. That’s called contagious fire,” Maher said on HBO’s “Real Time.”


According to reports, no gun was found inside the boat after Tsarnaev was captured, although the Boston Police commissioner had earlier said that cops had exchanged fire with the suspect.

Maher also said that America is becoming a “police state.”

“I want to talk about the police, who I am a supporter of… Look at this, I mean if this is what you have – why don’t you invade a country? …. I mean go up to Canada – take their oil… This country is becoming a police state. And it is very troubling to me,” Maher said, while showing pictures of police officers patrolling the city and searching for Tsarnaev.

Tsarnaev, 19, and his older brother Tamerlan, 26, are accused of being behind the bombings. Tamerlan was killed last week during a police pursuit of the two brothers.


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Old 04-29-2013, 09:34 AM   #16
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So if this had all gone down in Dallas or St. Louis or Atlanta what do you think happens? All the citizens go out with their handguns and shotguns and join the cops in turning over every leaf of their neighborhood?

They stick scoped rifles out of their 2nd floor windows to shoot at the Tsarnaev brothers while they are involved in a gunfight with the cops?

I find it absolutely amazing that the right wing lunatic fringe has turned the events of that week into a way to bash the shit out of Boston and Massachusetts. Un-****ing-believable. You don't even seem to give a damn about the victims or the fact that the perps were throwing homemade bombs around. Completely ridiculous.
I don't get it either. What are the police and the citizens supposed to do? All things considered and minus the injured police and victims I think this worked out well.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:46 AM   #17
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I don't get it either. What are the police and the citizens supposed to do? All things considered and minus the injured police and victims I think this worked out well.

Seriously. Frankly it seems to me that the authorities and citizens of Boston etc. did a pretty darn good job post-bombing. The bombing was Monday and the perps were dead or caught by Friday evening. Instead, people want to focus on a stay-in-place order that lasted all of 10 or so hours.

Because, you know, if the surviving brother took a hostage or managed another carjacking, that clearly would've been better than telling everyone to sit tight for a few hours while they tried to find the bastard in the area that he was very much believed to be in.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:10 AM   #18
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Seriously. Frankly it seems to me that the authorities and citizens of Boston etc. did a pretty darn good job post-bombing. The bombing was Monday and the perps were dead or caught by Friday evening. Instead, people want to focus on a stay-in-place order that lasted all of 10 or so hours.

Because, you know, if the surviving brother took a hostage or managed another carjacking, that clearly would've been better than telling everyone to sit tight for a few hours while they tried to find the bastard in the area that he was very much believed to be in.
Exactly, I think we're so desensitized from watching violent TV/Movies that people don't understand the seriousness of what was going on.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:26 AM   #19
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Exactly, I think we're so desensitized from watching violent TV/Movies that people don't understand the seriousness of what was going on.

Actually, if the authorities had just stayed home and waited a few more hours, internet supersleuths on Reddit and such would've been able to solve the entire case and used Google Maps to tell them exactly where the perps were. If this whole thing were happening in a real state, like Texas, then the well-armed citizenry could've taken that information and gone and blown those bastards away. No need for a trial or lengthy appeals from a death penalty or anything of that stuff.

****ing cops and this goddamn police state...
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:33 AM   #20
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Actually, if the authorities had just stayed home and waited a few more hours, internet supersleuths on Reddit and such would've been able to solve the entire case and used Google Maps to tell them exactly where the perps were. If this whole thing were happening in a real state, like Texas, then the well-armed citizenry could've taken that information and gone and blown those bastards away. No need for a trial or lengthy appeals from a death penalty or anything of that stuff.

****ing cops and this goddamn police state...
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:06 AM   #21
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Actually, if the authorities had just stayed home and waited a few more hours, internet supersleuths on Reddit and such would've been able to solve the entire case and used Google Maps to tell them exactly where the perps were. If this whole thing were happening in a real state, like Texas, then the well-armed citizenry could've taken that information and gone and blown those bastards away. No need for a trial or lengthy appeals from a death penalty or anything of that stuff.

****ing cops and this goddamn police state...
Funny, seing it wasn't the police who found him after locking down the city and doing door to door searches. It was a citizen. The lockdown and searches accomplished nothing.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:25 AM   #22
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Funny, seing it wasn't the police who found him after locking down the city and doing door to door searches. It was a citizen. The lockdown and searches accomplished nothing.
Except forcing the terrorist p o s to hide in a boat?
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:40 AM   #23
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Except forcing the terrorist p o s to hide in a boat?
Which may have happened with a routine police hunt too. Since the public was alerted and the public sent in photos and video surveillance, all those extra eyes could have spotted him too. This indicates private citizen cooperation which I think LE would have had should they need to search a home. Also, he and his brother made a lot of amateurish mistakes that got them caught. If anything, the general whereabouts was known. So why not narrow any lockdown more at the very least?

I know it all sounds like hindsight, but I just think our officials should consider ways that can still catch the guy without a massive violation of rights. Is that too much to ask in order to maintain a free society? This just conditions people to easily give up their rights out of fear.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:57 AM   #24
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If it had been me out there, I can honestly say I'd have been on a self-imposed lockdown, guns loaded and at the ready. Posted at the highest window in the house and probably not moving until it was over...I honestly don't know how I'd feel with the cops doing what they did, but it's a new situation and quite unique. Easy to talk about in hindsight.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:07 PM   #25
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If it had been me out there, I can honestly say I'd have been on a self-imposed lockdown, guns loaded and at the ready. Posted at the highest window in the house and probably not moving until it was over...I honestly don't know how I'd feel with the cops doing what they did, but it's a new situation and quite unique. Easy to talk about in hindsight.
It needs to be talked about in hindsight...if we're to be on guard about our liberties.

I would have consented to cops searching my home but I woulda' resented the frisking several times, arms-up and telling a civilian to not look out the window at gunpoint. Just tell them it's not safe...instead of threatening them with a gun. So unnecessary.
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There are some things that I’m not thrilled about regarding some of the searches and the police throwing lead into a boat that they were “pretty sure” had the right guy in it. Now having said, that these guys were murdering scumbags that killed innocent civilians as well as murdering a policeman. It is nothing short of a miracle brother number 2 was taken alive.

Mr. Maher while a cleaver and sometimes quite humorous man, has really gotten very full of himself and it must take a mighty big door for him to squeeze that big head of his through when he gets home at night. His likability has waned considerably in my book the last few years.
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Except forcing the terrorist p o s to hide in a boat?
Outside of their perimeter.
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I don't understand people who are worried America is becoming a police state, but than say things like this : “I agree that we shouldn’t have given the kid his Miranda rights because he probably had information"

Miranda rights don't exist only when you are told them. We always have them. Taking away Miranda rights is a step towards a police state.
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:38 PM   #29
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It needs to be talked about in hindsight...if we're to be on guard about our liberties.

I would have consented to cops searching my home but I woulda' resented the frisking several times, arms-up and telling a civilian to not look out the window at gunpoint. Just tell them it's not safe...instead of threatening them with a gun. So unnecessary.
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