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Old 04-29-2013, 12:29 PM  
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Army Email Labels Christian Ministries as “Domestic Hate Groups”

Army Email Labels Christian Ministries as “Domestic Hate Groups”

By Todd Starnes

A U.S. Army officer sent an email to dozens of subordinates listing the American Family Association and Family Research Council as “domestic hate groups” because they oppose homosexuality — and warned officers to monitor soldiers who might be supporters of the groups.

“Just want to ensure everyone is somewhat educated on some of the groups out there that do not share our Army Values,” read an email from Lt. Col. Jack Rich to three dozen subordinates at Fort Campbell in Kentucky. “When we see behaviors that are inconsistent with Army Values – don’t just walk by – do the right thing and address the concern before it becomes a problem.”

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, told Fox News he was disturbed by the contents of the email.

“It’s very disturbing to see where the Obama Administration is taking the military and using it as a laboratory for social experimentation — and also as an instrument to fundamentally change the culture,” he said. “The message is very clear – if you are a Christian who believes in the Bible, who believes in transcendent truth, there is no place for you in the military.”

The Army denied there is any attack on Christians or those who hold religious beliefs.

“The notion that the Army is taking an anti-religion or anti-Christian stance is contrary to any of our policies, doctrines and regulations,” said George Wright, Army spokesman at the Pentagon. “Any belief that the Army is out to label religious groups in a negative manner is without warrant.”

Wright said they are checking into the origin of the email. At this point it’s unclear who ordered the email to be sent and why.

The 14-page email documented groups the military considers to be anti-gay, anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim. Among the other groups mentioned are Neo-Nazis, Racist Skinheads, White Nationalists and the Ku Klux Klan.

The Family Research Council and the American Family Association were listed as being anti-gay.

“The religious right in America has employed a variety of strategies in its efforts to beat back the increasingly confident gay rights movement,” the officer wrote. “One of those has been defamation.”

The officer accused the “Christian Right” of “engaging in the crudest type of name-calling, describing LGBT people as ‘perverts” with ‘filthy habits’ who seek to snatch the children of straight parents and ‘convert’ them to gay sex,” he wrote.

Last week, Fox News reported that an Army training instructor told a Reserve unit based in Pennsylvania that Evangelical Christianity and Catholicism were examples of religious extremism. The Army categorized that episode as an isolated incident......





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Old 04-30-2013, 07:53 AM   #46
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Is Westboro Baptist Church a hate group?
I would say, "yes". But Family Research Council, evangelical Christianity in general, and the Catholic Church are not.

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Old 04-30-2013, 07:55 AM   #47
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Yeah maybe him too. Most religious folk are watered down versions of WBC, how dilute is the only question.
This has no meaning.
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:19 AM   #48
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This has no meaning.
To Dave and the God haters it does, otherwise true.
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:53 AM   #49
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To Dave and the God haters it does, otherwise true.
While it's sorta fun to laugh at the Daves of the world, it's not remotely funny that they're now infiltrating the armed forces and trying to infect our troops with this garbage. They crammed gays down their throats and incompetent women in the combat units. The military is the last vestige of honor in America that's left, but soon that'll be gone. Sacrificed at the PC altar. Sad what happened to this once-great nation.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:01 AM   #50
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I would say, "yes". But Family Research Council, evangelical Christianity in general, and the Catholic Church are not.

Again they are watered down versions of the same thing, some are so watered down there is little or no trace of WBC left. It's like yesterdays coffee cup, you can wash it but still some remnant of yesterdays coffee is on the cup. Doesn't matter how hard you try on a molecular level there is some left.

Churches may well be the same. They believe in exactly the same book. How strongly they believe and dilute their viewpoint is from WBC is the only question. I think that churches are inherently evil but that doesn't necessarily make them "hate groups". Funny thing is KC and sr agree with the church potion of it.
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:05 AM   #51
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Again they are watered down versions of the same thing, some are so watered down there is little or no trace of WBC left. It's like yesterdays coffee cup, you can wash it but still some remnant of yesterdays coffee is on the cup. Doesn't matter how hard you try on a molecular level there is some left.

Churches may well be the same. They believe in exactly the same book. How strongly they believe and dilute their viewpoint is from WBC is the only question. I think that churches are inherently evil but that doesn't necessarily make them "hate groups". Funny thing is KC and sr agree with the church potion of it.
Evil? lolz? how does evil exist to you? That's rather funny, and are you saying all churches teach the same? You can't have it both ways.
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Yes I believe teaching people things that aren't true is evil. I think teaching that there is no evolution and that the world is 6000 years old goes beyond counter productive and borders on evil. One of the primary reasons the US rating is science has fallen from #1 to 37th place is due to the meddling of religion. Look at Islamic countries. That is how churches would run the US given the opportunity, and how they have run the Western countries in the past.

The West has recovered from the grip of the church and ultimately the Islamic countries will as well. Hopefully if we haven't killed everyone we will someday welcome them back into contributing to future scientific endeavors.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:22 AM   #53
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One of the primary reasons the US rating is science has fallen from #1 to 37th place is due to the meddling of religion. .

One of the more bizarre, and humorous ,things I've read in quite some time.
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One of the more bizarre, and humorous ,things I've read in quite some time.
OK lets hear your reasons.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:49 AM   #55
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OK lets hear your reasons.
Much larger percentage of our population is recent immigrant, with low academic experience. Drags down the overall average. Quite simple really.


Your explanation is easy to refute because America has gotten less religious over the past 50 years ,not more.
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While it's sorta fun to laugh at the Daves of the world, it's not remotely funny that they're now infiltrating the armed forces and trying to infect our troops with this garbage. They crammed gays down their throats and incompetent women in the combat units. The military is the last vestige of honor in America that's left, but soon that'll be gone. Sacrificed at the PC altar. Sad what happened to this once-great nation.
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You seem to have trouble conflating rights with beliefs.
Religious beliefs are not a right now?

Truly astounding work you liberals are doing in the field of constitutional law.
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Much larger percentage of our population is recent immigrant, with low academic experience. Drags down the overall average. Quite simple really.


Your explanation is easy to refute because America has gotten less religious over the past 50 years ,not more.
So dem damned person of Hispanic heritages?

And no religion was at a low in the 70's when science was high, re-surged and science scores dropped.
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Much larger percentage of our population is recent immigrant, with low academic experience. Drags down the overall average. Quite simple really.


Your explanation is easy to refute because America has gotten less religious over the past 50 years ,not more.
And the US alone is having a huge surge of religious fundamentalism (hi there prisonbitch) other 1st world countries are dropping religion is a huge way, and progressing beyond us in science.
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The fact that you equate being gay with being an alcoholic is precisely why these organizations are labeled as hate groups.
Read again, I am showing how the logic used against FRC was flawed and by using that logic anyone can reach ridiculous conclusions my example being AA. Yes, how I equate being gay with being an alcoholic is ridiculous. Calling FRC a hate group is equally ridiculous.

Now to my original point, the only reason people are reaching these type of ridiculous conclusions is for the reason previously stated, "people on each side of this debate demand that you not only disagree with but disdain the other as crazy or evil. The rhetoric of our current culture is deeply divided, intense and even hysterical. Nobody is interested in logical ideas or reason only to denounce the other side."
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