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Old 05-01-2013, 09:02 PM  
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Why Geno Smith fell in the draft

I've seen a couple other posts about this... but this probably deserves it's own thread considering how many hours we've wasted arguing about the guy. This is the first article I've seen theorizing why Geno fell in the draft. Time will tell whether it's accurate.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ge...183846651.html

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On April 23, Smith, his agents, some family members and several friends gathered for dinner in New York in advance of the draft, a gathering confirmed by a family member. At one point, everyone around the table stood to give a toast to celebrate the evening.

Smith went last, thanking everyone and declaring that entire group his agents included were a "family" that would stay together his entire career, if not the rest of his life, the sources said. Smith, who at one point was expecting to be the No. 1 overall pick and at least a top 10 selection, has big plans for his career. Smith, according to the sources, hopes to emulate players such as Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers, putting himself cut above the rest of the quarterback fray.

The problem is that NFL types see a guy who, right now, doesn't understand how to get there.

"His biggest problem is that he doesn't know what he doesn't know," said a league executive, who spent extensive time assessing Smith before the draft.

"I'm not sure he knows how to take instruction because he pretty much wouldn't listen or talk to our coaches he's talented. He can sling it, he can fit it into tight spots, he can do a lot of things and I think he wants to be good. But you can't tell him anything right now. He's tuned out because he thinks he's got it all down."

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One possible factor in Smith dropping to the second round is a concern about leadership.

"He doesn't have much presence, not much of a leader," said another league executive, who spent a great deal of time studying Smith before the draft. "I don't think he's a bad person, but that's not enough to be a quarterback in this league."

Two sources indicated that when Smith went on some visits to teams, rather than interact with coaches and front-office people, he would spend much of his time on his cell phone. Instead of being engaged with team officials, he would be texting friends or reading Twitter or a number of other distracting activities.

"All these other players who were in there were talking to the coaches, trying to get to know people and he was over there by himself," one of the sources said. "That's not what you want out of your quarterback."

Both sources indicated that Florida State's E.J. Manuel, who was selected ahead of Smith at No. 16 overall by Buffalo, was far more impressive in terms of his personality and maturity.

"Manuel gets it, he gets the whole big picture of what it takes to lead a team," one of the league executives said.

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By Sunday, Smith was being convinced by other friends that it was the fault of his agents that he slipped so much in the draft, according to one of the sources.

"Right now, he's blaming everybody but himself and he has some buddies around him who are telling him that same thing," the source said.
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:40 AM   #526
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Unless he has a decent coach or is in the playoffs. Then he's dominant
Yeah, Alice was real dominant against the Giants in the biggest game of her career, not even putting up 200 yards and getting completely outclassed by Eli Manning.
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:51 AM   #527
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Yeah, Alice was real dominant against the Giants in the biggest game of her career, not even putting up 200 yards and getting completely outclassed by Eli Manning.
He put up 196 yards, 2 TDs, and 0 turnovers. He wasn't remotely outclassed. He lost because Kyle Williams fumbled late in the 4th and OT. Why don't you compare Smith's passer rating against the Giants to Tom Brady's?
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:54 AM   #528
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Or for that matter, Rodgers or Ryan against the 2011 Giants

I'm convinced that this fan base doesn't even care about winning. They'd rather play the victim and bitch all day than support a real team
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Old 05-04-2013, 02:12 AM   #529
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Shut up you little mental midget. We know a shitty checkdown loving game manager when we see it. This fan base is experts on that kind of blue balls QB play.

We are going to use you as the pivot man in a giant Chiefsplanet circle jerk this December. You will run home to your pathetic 49ers forum and bow before Colin Kaepernick's master race QB play.

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Old 05-04-2013, 02:15 AM   #530
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Shut up you little mental midget. We know a shitty checkdown loving game manager when we see it. This fan base is experts on that kind of blue balls QB play.

We are going to use you as the pivot man in a giant Chiefsplanet circle jerk this December. You will run home to your pathetic 49ers forum and bow before Colin Kaepernick's master race QB play.

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Old 05-04-2013, 02:17 AM   #531
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Shut up you little mental midget. We know a shitty checkdown loving game manager when we see it. This fan base is experts on that kind of blue balls QB play.

We are going to use you as the pivot man in a giant Chiefsplanet circle jerk this December. You will run home to your pathetic 49ers forum and bow before Colin Kaepernick's master race QB play.

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Alex Smith performed better against the Giants than Rodgers, Brady, and Ryan and you hate that.

You're a joke. The minute the Chiefs start winning you'll be pretending you never doubted this franchise. And they will be winning.
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Old 05-04-2013, 02:19 AM   #532
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Alex Smith performed better against the Giants than Rodgers, Brady, and Ryan and you hate that.

You're a joke. The minute the Chiefs start winning you'll be pretending you never doubted this franchise. And they will be winning.
Yep. Just flows with the tide
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Alex Smith performed better against the Giants than Rodgers, Brady, and Ryan and you hate that.

You're a joke. The minute the Chiefs start winning you'll be pretending you never doubted this franchise. And they will be winning.
Wrong. At the end of this season Alex Smith will be drawn and quartered and then we send his body parts to the four corners of Arrowhead as a warning.

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Old 05-04-2013, 02:29 AM   #534
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As I said, you and half of this board are cheering for the Chiefs to fail. You'd rather play the victim and bitch all day than support a real team

And tell me more about how you need to draft a QB in the first round to be a contender.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/3...-49ers-broncos

ps. 49ers were #1 last year as well
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As I said, you and half of this board are cheering for the Chiefs to fail. You'd rather play the victim and bitch all day than support a real team

And tell me more about how you need to draft a QB in the first round to be a contender.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/3...-49ers-broncos

ps. 49ers were #1 last year as well
JHC man. We want a quarterback that we can build a future with. We want a quarterback that could last 10+ years to cheer for. We want a quarterback that can grow with the team and turn us into world championship(s) football team. Is that too much to ask? Apparently so.
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JHC man. We want a quarterback that we can build a future with. We want a quarterback that could last 10+ years to cheer for. We want a quarterback that can grow with the team and turn us into world championship(s) football team. Is that too much to ask? Apparently so.
That'd be awesome. That's what any fan wants. I didn't see that in this crop of rookies, I saw alot of meh. To me, taking a flier on Bray, is a good move, because in a year like this, he's got as good a chance to work out as most of these QBs.
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Shut up you little mental midget. We know a shitty checkdown loving game manager when we see it. This fan base is experts on that kind of blue balls QB play.

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That'd be awesome. That's what any fan wants. I didn't see that in this crop of rookies, I saw alot of meh. To me, taking a flier on Bray, is a good move, because in a year like this, he's got as good a chance to work out as most of these QBs.
Fine, if this class sucked so bad and we can move on to next year for a better crop of QBs but there better not be any excuse not to pick one. We don't have a second round pick so I'm hoping we spend our first pick of the draft on a quarterback. FN BS if we go another year with out doing so and Clark Hunt lies if he says he wants to build the team in the draft.


I don't curr how Alex Smith does this year we need to draft qbotf with our top pick.
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Fine, if this class sucked so bad and we can move on to next year for a better crop of QBs but there better not be any excuse not to pick one. We don't have a second round pick so I'm hoping we spend our first pick of the draft on a quarterback. FN BS if we go another year with out doing so and Clark Hunt lies if he says he wants to build the team in the draft.


I don't curr how Alex Smith does this year we need to draft qbotf with our top pick.
I agree, that Smith isn't a long term solution. I believe if he's average, or below average, Reid will look for his replacement sooner than later. Reid's history says he'll look to upgrade even if Smith is good.
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