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FDA appeals making 'morning-after' pill available to all ages

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Terry Baynes
Reuters
8:00 p.m. CDT, May 1, 2013

(Reuters) - The Food and Drug Administration on Wednesday appealed a court order directing the agency to make "morning-after" emergency contraception pills available without a prescription to all girls of reproductive age.

Lawyers with the Justice Department filed the appeal with the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York, according to court documents.

The appeal is the latest foray in the years-long legal battle over the pill known as "Plan B," a drug that has also sparked political and religious clashes. If taken up to 120 hours after unprotected sex, it is designed to prevent pregnancy.

The government is seeking to overturn U.S. District Judge Edward Korman's ruling from April 5 that required the FDA to make the emergency contraception available over-the-counter to women of all ages within 30 days.

The Justice Department has asked the district court to temporarily stop its order from taking effect while the appeal is pending, said FDA spokeswoman Erica Jefferson.

The district judge's ruling came in response to a lawsuit originally filed in 2005 by the Center for Reproductive Rights and other groups seeking to strike down age and access limits to the emergency contraception. They argued that there was no scientific proof that girls of reproductive age could not safely use the drug without supervision.

Korman's order reversed a surprise December 2011 decision by U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. At the time, the FDA had decided to approve over-the-counter sales with no age limits when Sebelius ordered it to reverse course, barring girls under 17 from buying the pills without a prescription.

President Barack Obama supported that restriction, invoking his daughters. But the timing, 11 months ahead of the presidential election, sparked criticism that he was trying to placate social conservatives.

In his ruling, Korman called Sebelius' decision "arbitrary, capricious and unreasonable."

"The motivation for the secretary's action was obviously political," he wrote.

Nancy Northup, president of the Center for Reproductive Rights, criticized the government's decision to appeal.

Obama's "administration has decided once again to deprive women of their right to obtain emergency contraception without unjustified and burdensome restrictions," she said in a statement.

Before filing its appeal, the FDA said on Tuesday that it would allow girls as young as 15 years old to buy without a prescription the Plan B One-Step emergency contraceptive, made by a unit of Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd.

The agency said its decision to lower the age limit for Plan B One-Step was based on scientific data submitted by Teva that showed girls as young as 15 could safely use the drug without the intervention of a healthcare provider. Cashiers will still have to verify the customer's age before selling it, the FDA said.

The case is Tummino et al. v. Hamburg et al., U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York, No. 12-763.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:09 PM   #136
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Why?
Why should women be allowed birth control, abortion, or public assistance?

Well, First I believe a women has the right to choose when she will have a kid, as a kid is one of the biggest life changing events in a person's life. A mother should be able to choose when that happens.

Now, personally, I favor the birth control of those three options. One day, I hope science will find a very effective, non invasive, technique that will ensure without a doubt infertility until a women (or couple) decides their life is ready for a child.

If, for some reason, a society doesn't have a great system of birth control, with a comprehensive sex education system, than abortion demand will be there.

This is nothing new, abortions have been happening for thousands of years.

If, for some reason, a society does not allow either of those options, then I believe that society should at a minimum ensure that children in poverty get assistance. Which, would have to go through parents. In a developed, rich, nation such as ours, there shouldn't be child starvation.

A few sad stats:

"Single mothers are more likely to be poor than married couples. The poverty rate for single-mother families in 2011 was 40.9%, nearly five times more than the rate (8.8%) for married-couple families.


Two fifths of single mother families are “food insecure,”12 one seventh use food pantries, one third spend more than half their income on housing, which is generally considered the threshold for “severe housing cost burden.”

Single-parent families are among the poorest in the nation and as such, are extremely vulnerable to homelessness. Among all homeless families, 8 out of 10 are headed by single women with children; two fifths are African Americans (43%)."

Although two fifths of all single mothers are poor, only one tenth of all single mothers receive TANF. Though a small percentage, they represent more than 90% of all TANF families."

Read More Here: http://singlemotherguide.com/single-mother-statistics/

I am not at all going to claim that all single mothers didn't want their child.

I will claim that better birth control will help alleviate the problem
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:23 PM   #137
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Some more stats., specifically relating to teen pregnancy. I'd say that teen pregnancy is an issue that is worth finding a solution for. Abstinence only isn't it.

From http://www.thenationalcampaign.org/w...df/poverty.pdf


Approximately one-quarter of teen mothers go on welfare within 3 years of the child’s birth.2

Teen mothers are less likely to complete the education necessary to qualify for a well-paying job —only 38 percent of mothers who have children before age 18 obtain a high school diploma.3 In addition, other data indicate that less than two percent of mothers who have children before age 18 complete college by the age of 30 compared to nine percent of young women who wait until age 20 or 21 to have children.4 This disparity in education, not surprisingly, tends to affect income level. In fact, over the past 20 years the median income for college graduates has increased 19 percent while the median income for high school dropouts has decreased 28 percent.5

Virtually all of the increase in child poverty between 1980 and 1996 was related to the increase in nonmarital childbearing, and half of never-married mothers begin their childbearing as teens.6

Nearly 80 percent of fathers of children born to teen mothers do not marry the mothers. These fathers pay less than $800 annually in child support, often because they are quite poor themselves.8Since child support can be an important source of income for poor children—accounting for 23 percent of the family income among those families who do receive child support—children born to young fathers are at further disadvantage.9
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:25 PM   #138
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Approximately one-quarter of teen mothers go on welfare within 3 years of the child’s birth.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:28 PM   #139
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To back up my claim on Abstinence only claim, I provide the following study. What I provide here is the abstract:

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:...l.pone.0024658

Abstract

The United States ranks first among developed nations in rates of both teenage pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases. In an effort to reduce these rates, the U.S. government has funded abstinence-only sex education programs for more than a decade. However, a public controversy remains over whether this investment has been successful and whether these programs should be continued. Using the most recent national data (2005) from all U.S. states with information on sex education laws or policies (N = 48), we show that increasing emphasis on abstinence education is positively correlated with teenage pregnancy and birth rates. This trend remains significant after accounting for socioeconomic status, teen educational attainment, ethnic composition of the teen population, and availability of Medicaid waivers for family planning services in each state. These data show clearly that abstinence-only education as a state policy is ineffective in preventing teenage pregnancy and may actually be contributing to the high teenage pregnancy rates in the U.S. In alignment with the new evidence-based Teen Pregnancy Prevention Initiative and the Precaution Adoption Process Model advocated by the National Institutes of Health, we propose the integration of comprehensive sex and STD education into the biology curriculum in middle and high school science classes and a parallel social studies curriculum that addresses risk-aversion behaviors and planning for the future.


I will also provide this:

Because Of Abstinence Education, 60 Percent Of Young Adults Are Misinformed About Birth Control’s Effectiveness

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012...l-misinformed/
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:28 PM   #140
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Why should women be allowed birth control, abortion, or public assistance?
No, not why do you think we should. Why do we *have to* do one of the three?

The rest of this long post was deleted because it wasn't responsive to my question.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:33 PM   #141
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No, not why do you think we should. Why do we *have to* do one of the three?

The rest of this long post was deleted because it wasn't responsive to my question.
Well, then read it again, and substitute should for "have to". It doesn't change my response.

But, I will add another reason. Have to provide birth control because no one wants an abortion, but they will get one if needed. And despite all the laws you pass, abortion will happen.

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Old 05-03-2013, 05:32 PM   #142
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Well, then read it again, and substitute should for "have to". It doesn't change my response.

But, I will add another reason. Have to provide birth control because no one wants an abortion, but they will get one if needed. And despite all the laws you pass, abortion will happen.
Ok, so you concede that we don't really have to do any of those things.
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Ok, so you concede that we don't really have to do any of those things.
You're arguing with people that think the emotions and hormones of a 15 year old are more logical, experienced, and intelligent than that of her parents. They obviously fear the parent's actions more than that of a manipulating boyfriend, abuser, drug addict, or disease infested vermin ****ing said 15 year old.

Good luck with that.
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You're arguing with people that think the emotions and hormones of a 15 year old are more logical, experienced, and intelligent than that of her parents. They obviously fear the parent's actions more than that of a manipulating boyfriend, abuser, drug addict, or disease infested vermin ****ing said 15 year old.

Good luck with that.
Good point.
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Glad those days as a parent of a teen are over.

My daughter, at 15 asked to go on the pill. "Regulate my period" etc.

My question: "So, you"re having sex or going to have sex"?

Her reply: "Of course not".

By that time in my career in radiology/US I'd already seen hundreds of teens who came to the ED with "belly pain /weight gain/ or any other malady only to discover on the monitor "Oh gee, what's that"?

I was happy my kid had the fortitude to discuss it with me and her mom. I had pounded it into their heads that I was not paying to raise their mistake. That was incentive enough I suppose, but no way were we going to take any chances.
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You're arguing with people that think the emotions and hormones of a 15 year old are more logical, experienced, and intelligent than that of her parents. They obviously fear the parent's actions more than that of a manipulating boyfriend, abuser, drug addict, or disease infested vermin ****ing said 15 year old.

Good luck with that.
No where in my post did I say any of that. Is making things up the only way conservative argue?

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Old 05-04-2013, 07:43 AM   #147
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You're arguing with people that think the emotions and hormones of a 15 year old are more logical, experienced, and intelligent than that of her parents. They obviously fear the parent's actions more than that of a manipulating boyfriend, abuser, drug addict, or disease infested vermin ****ing said 15 year old.

Good luck with that.
I know I am joining this debate late but mlyonsd do you know the statistics for parents\relatives that molest their own children? It is around 30-40% of all child molestations.

I agree that parents should be informed but then again I realize the reality of the world we live in where the parent doesn't always have the best interest of the child. It is unfortunate but that is the way it is.

And I can also tell you first hand teenagers\young adults aren't going to be honest to their parents about having sex or taking their birth control pills until it is too late.
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Ok, so you concede that we don't really have to do any of those things.
Sure, if you ignore the negative effects not doing any of those things has on society. If we ignore the damage not doing those things cause. If we don't want to view ourselves as a civilized, developed country, sure we don't have to do any of those things.

/Don't actually have a rebuttal for any of that do you? Because that didn't address anything in the post.
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You're arguing with people that think the emotions and hormones of a 15 year old are more logical, experienced, and intelligent than that of her parents. They obviously fear the parent's actions more than that of a manipulating boyfriend, abuser, drug addict, or disease infested vermin ****ing said 15 year old.

Good luck with that.
Also, what the heck does this even mean? What are you trying to say? That liberals want teenage girls to listen to drug dealers? What does have to do with anything?
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I know I am joining this debate late but mlyonsd do you know the statistics for parents\relatives that molest their own children? It is around 30-40% of all child molestations.

I agree that parents should be informed but then again I realize the reality of the world we live in where the parent doesn't always have the best interest of the child. It is unfortunate but that is the way it is.

And I can also tell you first hand teenagers\young adults aren't going to be honest to their parents about having sex or taking their birth control pills until it is too late.
Kids who are molested by their parents (a tiny fraction of all kids, btw) already have an avenue for getting out from under their control. That's no reason to undermine the parental control of the vast majority of parents.
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