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Old 05-01-2013, 11:07 PM  
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FDA appeals making 'morning-after' pill available to all ages

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Terry Baynes
Reuters
8:00 p.m. CDT, May 1, 2013

(Reuters) - The Food and Drug Administration on Wednesday appealed a court order directing the agency to make "morning-after" emergency contraception pills available without a prescription to all girls of reproductive age.

Lawyers with the Justice Department filed the appeal with the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York, according to court documents.

The appeal is the latest foray in the years-long legal battle over the pill known as "Plan B," a drug that has also sparked political and religious clashes. If taken up to 120 hours after unprotected sex, it is designed to prevent pregnancy.

The government is seeking to overturn U.S. District Judge Edward Korman's ruling from April 5 that required the FDA to make the emergency contraception available over-the-counter to women of all ages within 30 days.

The Justice Department has asked the district court to temporarily stop its order from taking effect while the appeal is pending, said FDA spokeswoman Erica Jefferson.

The district judge's ruling came in response to a lawsuit originally filed in 2005 by the Center for Reproductive Rights and other groups seeking to strike down age and access limits to the emergency contraception. They argued that there was no scientific proof that girls of reproductive age could not safely use the drug without supervision.

Korman's order reversed a surprise December 2011 decision by U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. At the time, the FDA had decided to approve over-the-counter sales with no age limits when Sebelius ordered it to reverse course, barring girls under 17 from buying the pills without a prescription.

President Barack Obama supported that restriction, invoking his daughters. But the timing, 11 months ahead of the presidential election, sparked criticism that he was trying to placate social conservatives.

In his ruling, Korman called Sebelius' decision "arbitrary, capricious and unreasonable."

"The motivation for the secretary's action was obviously political," he wrote.

Nancy Northup, president of the Center for Reproductive Rights, criticized the government's decision to appeal.

Obama's "administration has decided once again to deprive women of their right to obtain emergency contraception without unjustified and burdensome restrictions," she said in a statement.

Before filing its appeal, the FDA said on Tuesday that it would allow girls as young as 15 years old to buy without a prescription the Plan B One-Step emergency contraceptive, made by a unit of Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd.

The agency said its decision to lower the age limit for Plan B One-Step was based on scientific data submitted by Teva that showed girls as young as 15 could safely use the drug without the intervention of a healthcare provider. Cashiers will still have to verify the customer's age before selling it, the FDA said.

The case is Tummino et al. v. Hamburg et al., U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York, No. 12-763.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:04 PM   #31
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Given that minimum age requirement (15) is under the age of consent, do statutory rape laws relate to this? If so, how?

I genuinely want to know.
Stat rape cases vary state by state but here's a chart

http://age-of-consent.findthedata.org/
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:06 PM   #32
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I agree but the goal posts seem to be moving with the promotion of late term abortions and the information coming out of the Gosnell(sp) case. Im actually amazed at the low level of anyone even caring anymore.
Conception and late term are two very different things.

You won't see any abortions in the third trimester because it's illegal, and will stay that way, and partial birth abortions are rarely done these days because that shit is ****ed up.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:07 PM   #33
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Or, just communicate with your daughter. Be open with her about sexuality, and be honest about the possible risks involved. Tell her to be smart about her choices, and if it is absolutley going to happen (which we all know it will; we were all high schoolers at one point. We know what goes on), don't just tell her to be safe about it, but help give her the resources she will need.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:08 PM   #34
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:02 PM   #35
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Conception and late term are two very different things.

You won't see any abortions in the third trimester because it's illegal, and will stay that way, and partial birth abortions are rarely done these days because that shit is ****ed up.
FTR... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_te...n_of_pregnancy

United States: In 2003, from data collected in those areas that sufficiently reported gestational age, it was found that 6.2% of abortions were conducted between 13 and 15 weeks, 4.2% between 16 and 20 weeks, and 1.4% at or after 21 weeks.[13] Because the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's annual study on abortion statistics does not calculate the exact gestational age for abortions performed past the 20th week, there are no precise data for the number of abortions performed after viability.[13] In 1997, the Guttmacher Institute estimated the number of abortions in the U.S. past 24 weeks to be 0.08%, or approximately 1,032 per year.[14]

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The Supreme Court has held that bans must include exceptions for threats to the woman's life, physical health, and mental health, but four states allow late-term abortions only when the woman's life is at risk; four allow them when the woman's life or physical health is at risk, but use a definition of health that pro-choice organizations believe is impermissibly narrow.[18] Assuming that one of these state bans is constitutionally flawed, then that does not necessarily mean that the entire ban would be struck down: "invalidating the statute entirely is not always necessary or justified, for lower courts may be able to render narrower declaratory and injunctive relief."[19]
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:28 PM   #36
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I agree but the goal posts seem to be moving with the promotion of late term abortions and the information coming out of the Gosnell(sp) case. Im actually amazed at the low level of anyone even caring anymore.
I'm lost as to what you're talking about. The pill in the OP is to prevent pregnancy, not terminate it.
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:29 PM   #37
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So since a 15 year old doesn't need parental consent for the morning after pill I'll ask again, did the judge get it wrong?
Well, since I'm stating that I believe a minor should have parental consent, it's not hard to come to that conclusion, is it?
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:31 PM   #38
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The hilarity of this is that no 15 year old would be able to afford them guys. They're like $50 a pop.

They'll still have to tell their parents.
$35 through Planned Parenthood. They could save their allowance and have a nest egg for such occasions, I guess....lol
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:52 PM   #39
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Well, since I'm stating that I believe a minor should have parental consent, it's not hard to come to that conclusion, is it?
If I misunderstood post 16 I apologize and retract my earlier comment.
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Someday when you're a parent maybe you won't sound so ignorant on this topic.
Yes, because god knows pooping out kids makes people smarter.
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Or, just communicate with your daughter. Be open with her about sexuality, and be honest about the possible risks involved. Tell her to be smart about her choices, and if it is absolutley going to happen (which we all know it will; we were all high schoolers at one point. We know what goes on), don't just tell her to be safe about it, but help give her the resources she will need.
Because teenage girls are well known for their open communication with their parents, and especially their sexual habits.
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FTR... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_te...n_of_pregnancy

United States: In 2003, from data collected in those areas that sufficiently reported gestational age, it was found that 6.2% of abortions were conducted between 13 and 15 weeks, 4.2% between 16 and 20 weeks, and 1.4% at or after 21 weeks.[13] Because the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's annual study on abortion statistics does not calculate the exact gestational age for abortions performed past the 20th week, there are no precise data for the number of abortions performed after viability.[13] In 1997, the Guttmacher Institute estimated the number of abortions in the U.S. past 24 weeks to be 0.08%, or approximately 1,032 per year.[14]

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Good stuff.

28 weeks is the clinical cutoff for the 3rd trimester.

Bolded shows why late-term abortions still occur.
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Yes, because god knows pooping out kids makes people smarter.
I'm not against them using the drug. I'm against a judge deciding how to parent somebody elses kid.

If a kid is going around having unprotected sex at 15 a parent should have the right to know about it. That judge isn't going to step in and warn a kid about the consequences of transmitted diseases.
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I'm not against them using the drug. I'm against a judge deciding how to parent somebody elses kid.

If a kid is going around having unprotected sex at 15 a parent should have the right to know about it. That judge isn't going to step in and warn a kid about the consequences of transmitted diseases.
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I'm not against them using the drug. I'm against a judge deciding how to parent somebody elses kid.

If a kid is going around having unprotected sex at 15 a parent should have the right to know about it. That judge isn't going to step in and warn a kid about the consequences of transmitted diseases.
What if the girl is too embarrassed to tell her parent that she had unprotected sex and gets pregnant?
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